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The Vergecast

They think they’re building God

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Kylie Robison joins the show to talk about OpenAI’s new model, o1, and what this new “reasoning” model says about the state of the art in AI — and what AI companies are willing to put up with in the name of building God. Then, Gaby Del Valle and Adi Robertson talk through the latest on the TikTok ban, the Trump crypto chaos, and the ongoing adtech antitrust trial against Google. (All with as little politics-talk as possible.) Further reading: OpenAI releases new o1 reasoning model OpenAI’s new model is better at reasoning and, occasionally, deceiving TikTok ban: all the news on attempts to ban the video platform TikTok oral arguments will weigh security risks against free speech TikTok faces a skeptical panel of judges in its existential fight against the US government Donald Trump is hawking tokens for a crypto project he still hasn’t explained US v. Google redux: all the news from the ad tech trial How Google got away with charging publishers more than anyone else Email us at [email protected] or call us at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Virgast, the flagship podcast of Things, Cod Name Strawberry.

0:09.0

I'm your friend David Pierce and I am currently in the Miami International Airport. I just spent the weekend touring

0:14.2

colleges with my nephew and suddenly I'm like college is awesome. I could go back to

0:18.4

college. I don't think I'd do very well. I don't think I would get in anywhere. I think my

0:21.7

test course would be awful if you're like hey how do you do calculus?

0:25.6

I don't know I have nothing for you, but suddenly college seems pretty appealing so who knows

0:30.4

Maybe this will be the end of my Virchcast career and I'll just go back to school or something.

0:34.0

But anyway, that is not what we're here to talk about.

0:37.0

Today, we are here to talk about two things.

0:39.0

We're doing a little bit of a catch-up on some kind of ongoing news happening in the tech industry.

0:43.4

First, we're going to talk about Open AI, which has been doing a bunch of sort of odd new work

0:49.2

with different kinds of models and a new thing that they call a reasoning model,

0:54.0

oh one, some strange corporate changes, lots just going on at Open AI.

0:59.1

So I figured it's been a while since Kylie Robeson came on the show and

1:01.7

told us what's going on. So Kylie is gonna come on the show and told us what's going on. So Kylie is going on the show and tell us what's going on.

1:05.0

Then we're going to talk about a bunch of ongoing legal and regulatory things.

1:10.0

We have the Tik-Tok ban or not ban ongoing. We have a bunch of questions about the

1:15.9

Google Ad Tech trial. We have whatever that Trump crypto thing was from a week or so

1:20.9

ago. So we're going to catch up on all of that too. All of that is coming

1:25.6

up in just a sec, plus a really fun hotline question that made me feel a lot of

1:29.6

feelings about my own life as these are wont to do. But first, legitimately as of right this second,

1:35.3

I just got the notification that my plane is boarding. So, time to fly home. We'll be right back.

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