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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

"They Said She'd Never Walk, Talk or Go to University” How Ellie Goldstein Proved Everyone Wrong

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

To mark World Down’s Syndrome Day Ellie Goldstein shares her journey from overcoming a challenging start in life to becoming a model, dancer and global trailblazer. From the glitz of Strictly Come Dancing to gracing the cover of Vogue, Ellie opens up about resilience, breaking barriers in the fashion world, and being unapologetically herself. This conversation is a celebration of defying expectations and embracing identity. We're Talking Life Beyond Down's Syndrome Sponsored by: Saily - Download from the app store and use code WNTT at checkout for 15% off. For more details: https://saily.com/wntt ⛵ (00:00) Intro (00:40) What Was Ellie’s Favourite Part About Being on Strictly? (02:34) How Ellie Started Out Modelling (03:46) Paul Lists the Brands Ellie Has Modelled For (04:33) Ellie’s Vogue Cover (07:46) Ellie’s Foray Into Being an Author (10:13) Saily Ad (11:25) Yvonne Shares the Story of Ellie’s Birth (20:01) Statistics Around Down's Syndrome (23:22) How Yvonne Told Ellie About Her Condition (24:37) What Yvonne and Ellie Appreciate About Each Other Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:21.6

Anyone want a song?

0:22.6

No.

0:23.6

Last One Laughing, new series, watch now, only on Prime Video.

0:29.6

Welcome to We're Talking.

0:32.6

In honor of World Down Syndrome Day, we're joined by Ellie Goldstein, model, dancer and trailblazer, as she shares her journey from a challenging start in life to the strictly ballroom and the cover of Vogue.

0:44.5

This episode is about resilience, representation, and rewriting expectations, because Ellie isn't defined by a diagnosis.

0:53.1

She's defined by who she is, unapologetically herself.

0:58.0

So can we start with Strictly? Can we start with Strickley?

1:13.6

Can we start with dancing?

1:15.6

Yes.

1:17.6

Let's start with this.

1:19.6

What did you love the most about Strickley?

1:22.6

And I think I could guess, but what did you love the most?

1:26.6

So I'd say that I love this spray tanis.

1:32.6

Like every Friday you get spray tanis and it's so, so chilling and calming.

1:40.1

And the way I do it, it's so cool.

1:42.3

It spray on it and it's so clever.

2:01.1

It's great. Oh, my gosh. I didn't know you would say that. Spray tans. And hair, the makeup. Okay. Of course. They were the characters I was in the live show. What else? I'm in my best life. It's so, oh, I don't think the best guy in the world.

2:06.4

So many people are going to say this is an ignorant question, but only because I've never used this.

2:08.9

Tell me about a spray tan real quick.

2:11.8

Do you, because do you sleep in a spray tan?

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