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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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🗓️ 20 June 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Last week, the Southern Baptist Convention held its annual meeting in New Orleans – and its main order of business was to tighten the reins on what women can, and can’t, do in the church. It’s the result of a years-long push from the SBC’s ultraconservative wing to reverse what it calls a “liberal drift.” As the nation’s largest Protestant denomination prepares to crack down on gender roles, what does that mean for American evangelicals – and for the rest of us? 


Guest: Beth Allison Barr is a history professor at Baylor University. She’s also the author of “The Making of Biblical Womanhood.”


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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.


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0:00.0

When was the last time you called yourself a Southern Baptist?

0:11.0

Oh, that's a really good question.

0:16.7

The last time I called myself officially a Southern Baptist was probably in 2003 or 2004.

0:28.3

My fellow son, Barr, teaches a history at Baylor University, a history of religion.

0:34.3

And while she doesn't call herself a Southern Baptist now, some of her strongest memories

0:39.2

from childhood revolve around the church.

0:43.0

But I also have a lot of memories that I now understand better where I begin to see changes

0:52.2

in the Southern Baptist Church that I grew up in.

0:54.9

Like what?

0:56.5

Like women, not being as visible.

1:03.2

Women were some of Beth's favorite religious teachers.

1:06.8

Her mom taught Bible study.

1:08.5

Beth had friends who were missionaries.

1:10.9

She's been thinking about all those mentors over the last week, as her childhood church held

1:15.5

its annual governing meeting.

1:18.0

Nearly 2,000 people showed up.

1:20.2

And the main topic of conversation was women.

1:23.1

I watched the whole thing.

1:25.9

It's like you can't help yourself.

1:27.9

Yeah, by Wednesday, I was ready to not be watching it anymore.

1:35.0

But I watched every bit or moment of Tuesday.

1:39.0

Tuesday was the day when the Southern Baptist Convention voted on whether they'd cut ties

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