"They Make A Desert and Call it Peace" Tacitus : At Last, a Ceasefire

The Trawl

Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss

News, Politics, Government

4.7 • 867 Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Trump really wanted a Nobel Peace Prize. Trump didn’t get a Nobel Peace Prize. And we’re starting this week’s Trawl with that delicious fact.

From his ego-fuelled reaction to the prize going elsewhere, to his grotesque grandstanding in Israel and Egypt, it's all in this episode. Trump is centre stage of course, having engineered a ceasefire and subsequent deal which is now to be thrashed out by various leaders, just not the Palestinian authorities.

Marina and Jemma discuss it all, the ceasefire, Netanyahu, Starmer’s attempts at diplomacy cosplay, Trump forcing world leaders into awkward praise, and the very sinister undertones behind the right’s rhetoric. There's even a Roman historian moment, and of course… PUDDING.

Pudding is a beautiful poem by Hussain Manawar. It's called Unity - Enjoy!

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2:15.1	WTF. I'm Gemma Forte. And'm Marina Perkis. And in this episode,
2:20.4	it almost goes without saying we're going to be focusing a lot on what's happening in the
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2:29.9	it looks like the level of relentless massacre has come to an end.
2:35.1	We hope, we hope.
2:36.9	Although at time of record, it does look like the IDF are not sticking to their end of the bargain.
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