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I am now honored to introduce so-called journalist, that's the words of Congress,

writer of racket news and America this week on Substack and author of Griftopia.

It's Matt Taibi. Matt, thanks for coming on, mate.

Of course. How are you doing, Russell?

You know, just very good and just very positive about

life, enjoying life. A lot of trust in our institutions, legacy media, got a lot of trust

in that, government, a lot of trust in that. Trust at a record high, I would say, not in a

faultless. Not a fully immersive, omnic crisis, geopolitical nightmares everywhere.is, geopolitical, nightmares everywhere.

You look, corruption, censorship everywhere.

I mean, there's so much for us to discuss, but given that we've just done an item using your journalism,

can we talk a little more, Matt, about Fauci's role in censoring the potential origins

of the last pandemic.

I suppose significantly that CIA whistleblower and Fauci's agency tour to shut down

investigation.

Yeah.

So this is a story that grew out of the Twitter files a little bit. because a lot of the focus of the Twitter files was about suppression of COVID-related

topics, a number of people came forward.

And Michael Schellenberger and I, about six months ago, we started to hear about a whistleblower

in the CIA who was coming forward with a story

that Anthony Fauci had at least on a couple of occasions come to the CIA's weapons

and counterproliferation center. I forget exactly what the acronym is, but it was what they were

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