We were with Adam Lalana. Remember he was at Liverpool for a long time and is a veteran of three big clashes with the Reds and Real Madrid. That tie happens to be coming around again in the

Champions League. Adam talks us through how relentless Madrid are in their ability to hurt teams and to hurt teams

at exactly the right time the opponent doesn't want it, exactly the moment when there's a mistake. And whenrich, yeah look at Modrich, in Adam's view is

pound for pound the best midfielder in the world. You know it's not about fate, draws happen. But like you spent a lot of time in your career, you put Spain a lot, you

played Madrid a lot, a teammate of yours from the If a Youth Cup 2005 went and became pretty legendary that Garif Beals just retired or just announced his retirement.

You went to a tour with a player that you really admire in terms of Modrich.

What was it like consistently facing Spain, scoring against them, playing real Madrid in terms of that real mix of things about your grandfather or your grandmother was English

nonetheless she was married to Spaniard I don't know if the family generally had a team

whether it was or wasn't Madrid or let's your bus or not what but over the period you've carried the Spanish English flag into

into battle into competition too with some sore nights too.

Some sore moments you're talking about Bale there is over-head kick.

I've seen it a few times yesterday when it was announced on my...

You reaching for the off, the off, the over-head kick. but I look back there and I think you've beaten by

Madrid you know have won the Champions League five times in the last seven eight years

not to say that I'm proud of losing to Madrid if there's a team to lose to

it's Madrid the legacy and the history around around the club and I hope one stage in my career in my life takes me to Spain with my wife's listening on a more permanent basis.

Because I feel like not that I've got unfinished business that I because I've not started anything in Spain but I do feel like at some point in in my career within football not playing whether it's coaching, that I'm going to be there

in some capacity working.

You've been careful and how you expressed it so I'm going to help you a little bit by saying,

when it's been first in 1982 for the World Cup I just went on the lash let's have a month there I'm here as a Scotland man I can't even tell you most of the things that went on

But I crossed it and I'm sharing this because you were being careful about expressing almost like there's not a voice calling to me but I feel or something as we crossed from France to Spain via train and in those days the gauge of the rails didn't meet so

you had to stop at Iran until they switched the gauge of the rails that you could carry on.

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