Hi, John. Hi, Bev. Thank you for joining me today.

Hi.

Hi. Thanks for having us.

I'm very excited for this conversation. We talk a lot. I talk a lot about retirement and retirement,

not just being this thing that you go to, to give up, to settle down, to kind of just

drift quietly into the night. But it should be this season of adventure, of joy, of purpose, of doing everything that you want to be able to do. And you two are excellent examples of that. You are the retirement travelers. You have a wonderful YouTube channel. You got tons of resources, which we're going to touch upon in a little bit. I'm going to link to them in the show notes below. But do you mind just sharing a bit about your journey? How did you come to be known as

or become the retirement travelers that you are today? Well, it has been quite a journey. I would say,

let's see, let's go back. I retired at the end of 2019 and we hadn't really thought about retirement travelers at that point.

We knew we wanted to travel some.

And at that time, Bev said, you know, while we travel, I could probably blog and, you know,

write some blogs as we travel.

We weren't thinking full time, maybe a couple months a year kind of thing.

And I said, naively, why not just start a

YouTube channel? How hard could that be? Famous last words. And she came up with the name

Retirement Travelers. And that was how it was kind of started back at the beginning of 2020,

again, before COVID.

So that's where the idea was started.

Yeah, yeah.

It was that simple.

And, you know, after, you know, after we got started with it, I mean, we can get into that.

But, yeah, the idea was never, we never had the plan to be world travelers. We never had

the, well, we always wanted to travel, but we never had the plan to be YouTubers. I mean,

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