Welcome once again to the conversations that matter Podcast. I'm your host John Harris. I am back from traveling for one day and then I go on another trip for another five days.

This is actually a vacation though this week and it's a much needed

one. I haven't gone on a vacation with my wife for, I guess it was 21 when we went before we moved back to New York from Virginia and now we just

are at a point where I think it would be helpful so we're going to go away for a week. So for those who prayed for travel mercies last week, I appreciate your continued prayers for travel mercies. I'm doing something I don't normally do and going to a beach and sitting on a beach.

I don't know if I'll actually sit there for days. We'll see. I tend to be, for those who don't know,

someone who likes to see everything I can see.

So before I was married, and my brother was, before he was married,

we went on a road trip for a month, and we, it was grueling,

and my brother will tell you that.

He probably still has PTSD from how many things we saw,

national parks, historical places,

and then we would just sleep wherever. It would be like, well, it's

getting dark now, let's find a Walmart parking lot or there's a few times we

found a campground and then I think it was the last I don't know why I'm sharing all this but I think it was the last

maybe the day before we were driving back to our home and I told my brother that because he was so

he was just he needed a hotel he was just like I can do, I can't keep doing this.

I need a shower, I need like a good bed for a night

so I can get some good sleep instead of setting up a tent

in a parking lot.

And I told him, because I wasn't happy about it, I said, well I'll get you a hotel room, but it'll be for your birthday.

And his birthday is in October, and this was like in June or July that I said that.

So, and this was years ago, I wouldn't be the same way now,

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