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Well, all ready, gang, welcome back once again to the active self-protection podcast. I am as always your host,

Mike Williver, and I remain with any luck at all your favorite former fed with me today.

A new friend of mine. His name is Craig. Craig Hales from the greater

Little Rock, Arkansas area. He is married. In fact, just celebrated 54 years as marriage to his

lovely wife. He has two daughters. And he is twice retired, currently a law student and a firearms

instructor. Craig, how are you, sir? I'm doing great. Outstanding. So for those of you not on the app, you're going to regret it, because Craig is outside. As those on the audio version, you can hear the birds in the background and hear the wind. He is outside at his home, and it is a lovely scene behind the beautiful lush trees. Nothing like the desert scape we have here in Arizona's. A little envious at springtime. How was the weather there in Little Rock right now?

It is back and forth. A week ago, it was 28 degrees when I woke up at 5 o'clock in the morning.

Today, we started when it's still dark in the mid-60s, and now it's up just over 70-75, so it's beautiful.

Yeah, this is basically springtime in Arizona. We had a early hot spell, so it was like 101 degrees for a few days, but it's back down to

the normal at temperature, 75. This is about when we go from smug to miserable around this time

of year in southern Arizona every year. So it's coming, coming for us all

very soon. So twice retired, did you want to discuss your previous methods of employment at all?

I certainly can. I started out my professional life with a degree in chemistry. And when I was a young

junior chemist in Dallas, I was also in the Air National Guard making drills. I was down in Dallas making drills up in Arkansas where I was a guard member. After about eight years of being a chemist, I then went into the Guard's active duty officer program and spent just about 20 years on active duty with the National Guard Bureau.

So that was my first retirement after being a chemist and then being a personnel officer

and a finance officer in the Guard, retired in 97 with an Air Force retirement. And at that time,

I had two daughters, four years apart. The older was a senior in high school. I was not going to be able to play old retired guy. So I had earned a systems degree while in the Air Force. I went into information systems and did that for about 20 years, the most of it in cybersecurity. And that was my second retirement in 2018, which relates directly

to the instant we'll talk about, at which point I retired for the second time. Everybody was

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