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Haunted Road

They Call Him Zombie Boy

Haunted Road

iHeartPodcasts and Grim & Mild

True Crime, Society & Culture

4.73.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

The Oliver House, dating back to 1769, stands as one of Massachusetts' most famously haunted locations. But have they created their own ghost?

Recorded LIVE at Strange Escapes Waverly Hills!

Special Guest: Richard Estep

 

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0:00.0

Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of IHeart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Manky.

0:07.1

Listener discretion is advised.

0:10.6

What if you could make a ghost?

0:14.1

In 1972, an experiment conducted by a Toronto-based Parapsychological Association, led by mathematical geneticist Dr. A. R. Owen,

0:24.5

and overseen by psychologist Dr. Joel Whitten, attempted to determine if that was indeed possible.

0:31.2

The test group consisted of folks like the former chairperson of Menza, a few engineers, a sociology student, an accountant,

0:40.0

and a bookkeeper.

0:41.7

Together, the group invented a fictional character named Philip Aylesford.

0:46.7

His made-up background included being described as a 17th century English aristocrat,

0:52.3

who lived during the reign of Oliver Cromwell. His story included

0:55.9

a tragic love affair, an unjust execution of his beloved, and his eventual suicide. The participants

1:02.8

who were aware that Philip was a creation of their imagination conducted regular seance-type sessions.

1:09.6

They attempted to communicate with Philip through these

1:12.6

sessions, reciting his history over and over. Over time, various phenomena such as raps and knocks

1:19.9

in response to questions and movements of the table were interpreted as Philip's presence

1:25.0

and interaction, despite knowing he was not real.

1:28.6

The experiment suggested that a group's collective belief and focused intent could induce intelligent, interactive, paranormal activity,

1:39.3

which raised the question, could paranormal phenomena be attributed to psychological or unconscious processes

1:46.0

rather than, well, ghosts?

1:49.0

I'm Amy Bruny, and this is Haunted Road.

1:53.0

On Plymouth Street in Middleboro, Massachusetts, a Georgian-style two-story house sits behind a wide lawn.

2:08.4

It's surrounded by leafy trees and green grass with some distance between the front door and the street.

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