This is Free Thought Radio with co-host Stan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Irreverent Views, News, Music, and Interviews.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us, above us only sky.

Imagine all the people living for today. Welcome to Free Thought Radio.

I'm Annie Laurie Galore, and this is radio for the rest of us.

The heathens, the non-believers, the unorthodox, those of us who are personally free from religion. And of course we welcome everybody who wants to listen, who's curious about this,

and people who are interested in the support of separation of religion and government.

And I'm Dan Barker, your friendly neighborhood atheist.

This is the November 19th, 2020 edition of Free Thought Radio, and Annie Laurie and I, again, are

hosting from our home studio in Madison, Wisconsin, while our engineer, Buzz Kemper,

is producing in his own recording studio, Audio for the Arts, down near the Wisconsin State Capitol.

The Free Thought Radio is the weekly production of the Freedom from Religion Foundation,

which does two things. We work for separation of religion and government, just like our

founders intended. And we work to educate the public, that's you, about the views of those of us who

are non-believers and non-theists, and there's a lot of news to talk about about that.

And Dan, you have made up a new joke.

I did. This is a joke that I think Rodney Dangerfield would have told, this pandemic is nothing new.

People were always crossing the street to avoid me before this.

I don't get no respect, you know what I mean, Dan?

Hey, Buzz, you sound just like Rodney Dangerfield.

Thank you.

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