For Valentine's Day, I heard Americans will spend about $2 billion on flowers.

When Trump heard that, he tried to sell the White House rose garden to pay for the wall.

Rare ranging the finances.

We mentioned earlier that if you simply say, are you in favor of physical barrier where it's necessary, other technologies where it's necessary, little humanitarian aid for the downtrodden, you get 66% of Americans.

The idea that the wall is immoral, we build bridges not walls. That's just hogwash man. That's just crap spouted by a tiny percentage of the population.

You put it in a mix of reasonable border control methods.

Everybody likes it.

The democracies don't deal well with nuance, which is probably a good transition into the conversation, but there is homeless stories that are out there right now.

Because there's nuance to this too.

Are you either, you know, round them up and get them out of here or are you a compassion for all they deserve our help person?

Well, there's all kinds of in between gradations of the homeless thing. Are you kind or are you a brute?

Exactly. And you look at an encampment of homeless people. God, there's a one on the way on my way home that in theory has a bike path along it.

I never see bikes on there anywhere. Any more?

Not anymore.

Who's going to ride their bike along there past that homeless camp? You don't know who the hell is in there.

Some of them are crazy. Some of them are drug addicts. Some people just don't want to work. There's all kinds of different.

So how are you going to help that crowd? I don't know. And if you provide help, do you just attract more?

Yes.

Yes.

It would seem.

Yeah.

In every case, well, how do you end that cycle?

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