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ManTalks Podcast

TheTinMen - Is Inequality Really That Bad? The Surprising Research Behind A Shifting Landscape

ManTalks Podcast

Connor Beaton

Relationships, Mental Health, Education, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.8591 Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Talking points (and content warning): masculinity, suicide, domestic violence, patriarchy, politics, culture Whew. This was quite the conversation. I've been following TheTinMen for a while now and am continually inspired by his passionate yet levelheaded approach to what is (unfortunately all too often) wildly charged conversations. This is a heavy one, team—and deeply important. (00:00:00) - Intro and why "TheTinMen"? (00:04:17) - George’s defining moment(00:08:40) - How do you approach the topic of domestic violence, and it's biggest causal factor(00:12:00) - What factors into domestic violence outside power and control?(00:21:38) - George’s take on the patriarchy(00:28:04) - How do you engage people who think all men are evil?(00:33:22) - In the UK, fathers are legally second-class parents(00:38:41) - The misconceptions around male suicide(00:46:34) - What are men saying to George directly about suicide?(00:46:34) - How does the epidemic of male vacancy play into the challenges young boys are facing?(00:55:21) - Why men leave the left(01:04:25) - How do you handle such charged conversations? George (@TheTinMen) is a content creator, research, pro-men's advocate and social media influencer. He explores the forgotten gaps of the gender debate, working for compassionate, original, and progressive political advocacy for men and boys. Connect with TheTinMen -Website: https://thetinmen.blog/ -Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetinmen/ -Podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thetinmen/ -Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheTinMenBlog This episode is brought to you by Cured Nutrition! Cured offers everything from CBD to functional mushroom products to adaptogens designed to help the body thrive in all aspects of the daily human experience. Personal favorite? The Zen sleep bundle. Get 20% off your order here: https://www.curednutrition.com/mantalks/ Pick up my book, Men's Work: A Practical Guide To Face Your Darkness, End Self-Sabotage, And Find Freedom: https://mantalks.com/mens-work-book/ Check out some free resources: How To Quit Porn | Anger Meditation | How To Lead In Your Relationship Build brotherhood with a powerful group of like-minded men from around the world. Check out The Alliance and join me today.  Enjoy the podcast? If so, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or Podchaser. It helps us get into the ears of new listeners, expand the ManTalks Community, and help others find the tools and training they’re looking for. And don't forget to subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts  | Spotify For more episodes, visit us at ManTalks.com | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Years ago, I interviewed a gentleman named Joseph Shih, and he started a company called Cured Nutrition,

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who we have partnered with. We partnered with them because I love him, I love his mission,

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We have been very, very intentional about who and when we bring

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on partners. Please go check them out. Again, cured c-U-R-E-D-Nutrition.com for slash man talks.

1:26.1

All right, George from the Tin Man or George, the Tin Man. How are you doing today?

1:32.6

Not bad, thank you. Thanks for having me on. Why The Tin Man? I've sort of had my theories on this, but why the Tin Man?

1:38.8

Well, it's a Wizard of Oz, as you probably well know. The Tin Man is a character who joins Dorothy on her journey

1:46.4

and his journey is basically trying to find his heart. He thinks he's a tin man, he's got no heart,

1:51.6

he joins Dorothy on the journey to find his heart. And at the end, and it's a spoiler, he already

1:57.1

had a heart, he had a heart the whole time. And I was just like that to me feels like a really good metaphor for men, like told that you don't have a heart. But when he look inside, they do have one. I mean, I guess the more obvious reason was, like, I can't really give you my full name. I can't really have my full name as my handle for the reason because, like, a lot of things I talk about are not very popular. So I needed a pseudonym. And it was a tin. I wanted the tin man, but it wasn't available. So I stuck with the tin men. I remember one time I got a message from someone saying, just quite in a panic of anything. And he was just like, I don't understand. There is no tea in men. And I was like, I was like, what? And he was like, there's no tea in men. I was like, I was like, slow down. And I was like, he was like, there is no tea in men. And then I realized that he had read it, the tea in men, not the tin men. And I was like, oh, no, thank you. Don't worry, mate. It's the tin men. Few. Problem solved. But, yeah, that's where it came off.

2:53.2

Oh, man. It's those types of messages and interactions that...

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