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🗓️ 1 November 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Dave Rubin of "The Rubin Report" talks to John Anderson about transitioning from politics to public commentary; the rise of long-form media and distrust in mainstream news; why young people seek deeper conversations; the decline of reason-based debate in Western democracies; how progressive voices avoid open discussion and rely on emotional arguments over facts; Australia's cultural complacency and erosion of Western values; and the danger of avoiding hard choices for future generations; the fading Crocodile Dundee spirit in Australia; how complacency and cultural comfort have eroded resilience; Australia's historical roots in authority versus America's experiment in freedom; young men searching for meaning amid declining mental health; the impact of Jordan Peterson on restoring responsibility and masculinity; how victimhood culture spread across the West; mainstream media decline and the rise of podcasts like Joe Rogan; the importance of truth, trust, and long-form conversation in the face of AI and media collapse; Australia's fading national identity; Melbourne feeling like a globalized "blue city" disconnected from traditional Australian culture; rising immigration reshaping demographics; concerns about importing ideologies hostile to Western values; radical Islam and pro-Hamas demonstrations after October 7; the danger of cultural complacency and forgetting founding principles; how democracy requires shared moral foundations, assimilation, and leadership to avoid national decline; and much more.
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| 0:00.0 | When you take God out of being over government, government becomes God. |
| 0:04.0 | Well, what's government? |
| 0:05.0 | Whatever the system, including in democracy, actually it's just people. |
| 0:08.0 | What's the problem with people? They're flawed. |
| 0:10.0 | I just came from Melbourne and it is very hard to get a feeling for the city. |
| 0:16.0 | Often, we were kind of joking. Where are the Australians? |
| 0:18.0 | In Australia, we've always been known for being laissez-faire, you know, there's no class system in Australia, a very fortunate society. |
| 0:25.3 | But I think the downside of the admirable equality, you know, egalitarianism of Australian is actually complacency. |
| 0:33.3 | Now, the problem with complacency, you can ignore reality for as long as you like, but in the end you won't be able to ignore the consequences of reality. |
| 0:47.3 | If you have many people coming in, if they're prepared to merge and build up, it can be fine. Everything goes well. |
| 0:52.3 | But if people are coming in bringing their own beliefs, their own politics, their own approach to life that is actually hostile to the |
| 1:00.0 | hosts, we know that a certain proportion of Muslim people are radicalised, quite a high proportion. |
| 1:06.0 | You don't need too many to make the world a very difficult place. |
| 1:10.0 | Maybe it's got to get even worse before it gets better. |
| 1:13.6 | But we do need some sort of wake-up call and hopefully before it's too late. |
| 1:17.6 | That's been the history of the Western democracies. |
| 1:19.6 | But is that just baked in that that's what humans will do? |
| 1:22.6 | We will just wait until it's too late. |
| 1:34.6 | All right, you're a pro, John Anderson. |
| 1:36.3 | We are flipping the script. |
| 1:38.1 | We just sat down for about an hour. |
| 1:39.7 | Yeah, you've got to get rid of that piece of paper. |
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