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Hey, everyone, it's Andrew Claven with this week's interview with Scott Atlas, the doctor, obviously,

and author of A Plague Upon Our House, my fight at the Trump White House, to stop COVID from destroying America.

I have often talked about a passage

in Winston Churchill's memoirs of his youth, where he talked about going to a party filled with the

leaders of Europe before World War I and going to another party after World War I with the

leaders of Europe and how they were all different people because World War I had been such a disaster and the failure of leadership throughout Europe.

I truly believe that the response to the COVID epidemic was the greatest failure of Western

leadership since World War I.

And I think one of the things we're seeing now is a lot of the people being thrown out and

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