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Stansberry Investor Hour

These Energy Stocks Are Still Cheap... Not for Long

Stansberry Investor Hour

Stansberry Research

Business, Investing

4.3680 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan welcomes value investor Tobias Carlisle back to the show. Tobias is the founder and portfolio manager of Acquirers Funds, a deep-value investment firm. He's also the host of a podcast and the author of numerous books, including The Acquirer's Multiple.

 

Tobias kicks things off by discussing the performance of his energy fund and the energy sector. He likes to compare gold with oil to see how their pricing has moved in relation to each other over the past year. He thinks oil companies are still cheap and believes that we haven't seen "peak oil" prices yet. He also gives the tickers of two energy companies that he's confident are good places to put your money to take advantage of the energy crisis. (0:00)

 

Next, Tobias shares two other energy stocks that he's fond of. While these companies aren't as stable as the previous two due to their locations, they possess quality shale sites that make them compelling considerations. Tobias then shifts his attention to two other companies focused on the fertilizer and copper industries. With the first company, he emphasizes that folks need to eat and that the company will aid in food production and remain strong, especially since "nitrogen-based fertilizer feeds half the world." And with the second company, he believes that we're currently in the middle of a cycle for copper demand. (14:52)

 

Finally, Tobias gives his thoughts on the housing sector. While many investors might avoid it because housing sales are lower than they were at the bottom of the great financial crisis (due to high home prices), he believes that buying now and holding on will pay off when it springs back to life. He also makes the case that in most markets you want to be a contrarian because you can buy good companies at low price-to-earnings multiples. And he cautions investors not to think about companies as blank tickers but as functioning, moving entities that have work put into them that can break them out of stagnancy. (28:34)

Transcript

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0:00.0

If the Iran War has you thinking about energy stocks, you're on the right track, but you need to know what we're going to talk about today that nobody is telling you.

0:08.3

We're going to talk about companies like Devon Energy, DVN is the ticker, EOG Resources, EOG is the ticker of that one. I love them both, and so does our guest.

0:17.9

We're going to talk about what they're really worth and why you should

0:20.8

really buy them, that nobody is telling you. And the one guy to make this argument is on

0:26.7

our show today. His name is Tobias Carlisle. Let's do it. Let's talk with Tobias Carlis. It's good to see you again, buddy.

0:43.4

Hey, Dan. Good to see you again, too. How are you?

0:46.2

Good, good. We got to talk energy, partly because, you know, hallelujah, us sort of value guys, you know,

0:55.9

bought some energy and it's like treating us like we're human beings again.

1:01.1

The topic of energy scarcity is on your mind these days, I understand.

1:07.2

Yeah, I have a fund that has been up to its risk limits in energy since about this time last year, because energy sub-W-T-I-Oil, sub-6060 was supply destruction,

1:28.4

which means that there's no new wells being drilled.

1:31.4

There's no investment.

1:35.5

And oil equities followed suit.

1:38.5

They haven't been making any money at that level.

1:42.3

The multiples are all crushed. You can see the proportion of oil equities in the indexes

1:49.3

is as low as it's been maybe 2020 at the bottom. I also like to look at oil versus gold because

1:58.5

then that takes the money printing out of the equation.

2:04.6

I get that there's a little bit of speculation in gold last year. Gold had a pretty good run-up.

2:05.9

Sure.

2:06.4

But I still think that you can look at those two. You can see, well, an ounce of gold

2:12.4

buying 100 barrels of oil, which is unusual. And I was saying that last year. So the thesis

2:17.2

was just that low oil

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