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These bacteria may be key to the fight against antibiotic resistance

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🗓️ 9 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

In 1928, a chance contaminant in Scottish physician Alexander Fleming’s lab experiment led to a discovery that would change the field of medicine forever: penicillin. Since then, penicillin and other antibiotics have saved millions of lives. With one problem: the growing threat of antibiotic resistance. Today on Short Wave, host Regina G. Barber talks to biophysicist Nathalie Balaban from Hebrew University about the conundrum — and a discovery her lab has made in bacteria that could turn the tides.


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0:00.0

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:07.7

In 1928, the Scottish physician Alexander Fleming made a discovery that would change the field of medicine forever.

0:15.1

He was studying bacteria on auger plates in the lab when he noticed something odd.

0:20.4

There weren't any bacteria growing around a spot of mold that had contaminated a part of the

0:25.2

plate. It turns out he discovered a medical super compound, penicillin.

0:31.8

Since then, penicillin and other antibiotics have saved millions of lives, with one problem. The growing threat of antibiotic

0:40.3

resistance. Antibiotic resistance means that somehow the bacterium usually acquired a mutation.

0:48.0

For example, the penicillin is there, but it doesn't do its job, and therefore the bacterium

0:53.6

grows happily, and it's resistant

0:56.0

to penicillin.

0:57.0

This is Natalie Balabon, a biophysicist at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and she says

1:03.0

more and more bacteria are becoming resistant to all of our antibiotics, which could spell

1:08.6

a major problem.

1:18.8

One day, all of our antibiotics could stop working, unless scientists can find a major weakness in bacteria.

1:29.8

Recently, Natalie's lab may have done just that by hacking dormant bacteria, because antibiotics, they work by killing off growing bacteria.

1:33.0

But sometimes bacteria don't grow.

1:34.5

They shut down.

1:39.3

And in that case, antibiotics, like our guy, penicillin, are rendered useless.

1:44.7

The penicillin will kill all the growing ones, but the one that are not growing are going to persist.

1:46.8

And this is what it called persistence.

1:55.0

Today on the show, antibiotic persistence, what it is and how it can help scientists discover new ways to combat a growing bacterial threat.

1:58.5

I'm Regina Barber.

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