Hey, Kevin. It's mutiny. Why is it mutiny? Because we're actually going to reverse roles this week. That's true. Explain why we're reversing roles because we are talking about law and order and it's something that I'm a little bit more obsessed with than you are and I would rather answer the questions and ask them. Yeah, I actually can't really contribute too much to law and order now. Laura and Toby are away because it's school vacation week around here and we thought it would be a good time to try something new bring back some of our favorites bring back some of our favorite guest panelists bring on

a special guest panelists talk about something that we really love talking about and spoiler alert we might be talking about a lot more in the future. We will say, but you know, some things aren't going to change. First of all, we can still tell you that we'd love for you to help out our podcast by shopping right through our website. Go to the Amazon link at crimebriorson.com. It takes you to Amazon. You do all the regular shopping you normally do doesn't cost you anything else and a little bit comes right back into the studio here. Little bit comes right back in the studio and that support goes to help us pay for the content.

We'll see. Now, even though he is away, something else remains the same. Here is Toby ball with the latest in the things that were purchased this week through the Amazon link at crimebriorson.com. Purchased by you, our listeners. Roll the roll the thing. I can't believe I'm running the show next and you will still won't let me touch any of the buttons. Nope.

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I'm Kevin Flynn and this is crime writers on a podcast about a podcast and also about journalism pop culture to crime and occasionally television shows today.

We're breaking format for a special episode on something that we know is near and dear to most of our listeners hearts. That's right. It's a whole show about NBC's mega franchise.

We'll be focusing mostly on what in this house is known as original recipe the first series and what's become a jogger nut.

Re-run franchise full 26 years after it first hit the air in 1990. Laura's on vacation this week and we're giving Toby a bit of a break as well but our special guest panelists will not disappoint we promise.

So joining me now is my true crime co-author in real life wife Rebecca LaVoye. They say that right Rebecca LaVoye.

I can't wait to be you Kevin Flynn. Thank you so much for having me on your show and you will see how difficult it is.

And returning to our panel this week is a lawyer who literally has been trained to kill people retired Marine Lieutenant Colonel and Jag Lawyer from the task and purpose podcast. Welcome back James Wyrick. Hey Wyrick.

Thank you for having me here Kevin. And finally a brand new voice to our show. He's a longtime public radio reporter and host.

It prolific blogger and the author of the new book Dead Presidents. His name is Brady Carlson Brady. Welcome to our little panel.

Thanks for having me but I'm curious why you didn't ask whether I've been trained to kill.

Well, have you?

I hope you never have to find out. Just say that.

Okay. Well, I mean, I would do want to ask about your qualifications, but other than maybe or maybe not having lethal hands.

Have you ever written about crime? What do you know about crime?

I know mostly about the assassinations of presidents, which are unspeakably horrible national tragedy.

Yeah, sort of criminal.

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