There’s Someone Dying Upstairs (Part 1)

Thanks For Asking

Feelings & Co.

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 13.5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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“Can I move in with you?” Laurel Louise Anderson (lovingly called Miss Ma’am) posed the question to our producer and her son, Marcel Malekebu, in the summer of 2024. After nearly a year of Marcel asking and a year of her denying, the request came seemingly out of nowhere. His mom moved in, and Marcel and his wife Jenae became caregivers not only to their two very young daughters, but to Miss Ma’am. Caregiving is not an easy thing to do, but it is a holy thing to do. And in this episode, Marcel and Jenae are sharing Miss Ma’am and their lives with her with us. Watch us on YouTube here! Get this episode ad-free here! Listen to Geoffrey’s album on Spotify and Apple! More Caregiving Episodes: Normalize “bad women” with Rebecca Woolf Patients Over Profits Shop my favorite bras and underwear at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠SKIMS.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. After you place your order, be sure to let them know I sent you! Select "podcast" in the survey and be sure to select my show in the dropdown menu that follows. Find your fall staples at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Quince.com/TFA⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! All-in-one nutrition for daily performace at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DrinkAg1.com/THANKS⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out Rocket Money at⁠⁠⁠⁠ rocketmoney.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:39.3	your podcasts.
0:45.5	Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi there. Hi. Hey, Nora.
0:52.9	I'm Nora McInerney, and this is thanks for Asking, a call-in show about what matters to you.
1:03.0	I'm Marcel Malikivu, and this is thanks for asking.
1:13.2	For about eight years, I've been a producer on this show, working on episodes about all kinds of different topics.
1:20.4	One of those topics is caregiving.
1:24.4	And it wasn't until recently that I found myself in the position of being a caregiver.
1:32.8	In the summer of 2024, I had just come back from a vacation with my wife, Janay, when I got a
1:39.3	somewhat unexpected call from my mother. She told me that she wanted to move in. I'd been asking her for
1:48.2	almost a year because of the many health issues she had going on at the time, but this particular
1:54.1	call was different because she would usually just decline and change the subject. I thought that she'd never agree to it, so I had basically given up on asking.
2:06.6	And so for the following nine or so months after that call ended,
2:11.6	we went on a journey that was beyond words, the way life always is and that journey ultimately ended in the
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