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Hey friend, it's Nicole, host of the Nicole Walters podcast.

Here's where we laugh, we cry, and we grant ourselves grace as we do life together. Let's get started.

Friends, I am so excited. You know that I don't do the chat thing very often, but holy cannoli. My friend Sarah is here. She is your friend too. We are going to sit down when I tell you this chat. If you know anything about Sarah, you know we are the same people.

We have the babies, we have the bodies. Okay, and we'll talk more about that later. We all have bodies, but we have the bodies.

The ones that people love to talk about, the ones that people have things to say about. We also have the families that are made up in all sort of mishmash ways and are still filled with so much love.

And above all else, Sarah, just like me and just like you is out here doing her very, very best to make a difference in this world, share what she has learned and really pour back into all the truth that you aren't able to find right away on the internet. She is an example of that. And this chat is easily my favorite one about starting over this entire season. Lean in so, so good. Sarah, thank you so much for being here.

I am beyond it. Like we hadn't even hit record yet. And I feel like I just poured my guts out on the table. And we just sat and admired them a little bit.

Oh my god. And I'm just like, are we this, are we the same person in two different lives? How much we have a lot? We have a lot of lines.

So I'm excited about this chat because and I just want to jump into it because if y'all don't know, we were already going at it. And I was like, okay, we just need to start because there's so much to talk about.

Now, if you guys follow the Birds Maya podcast and Instagram and all that, you already know, Sarah, you talk about everything. You put yourself out there.

I do. Yeah. I do it on purpose.

I mean, someone's got to, you know what I mean? And you talk about your body, you talk about your family, you talk about your past and your marriage.

And you also talk about your present and the hardship and, you know, also the good.

A lot of light and a lot of good. So let's just start off with how each of those areas is a place of starting over for you.

So can you tell me a little bit more about that?

Yeah. So it's so fascinating. I think I like so many people started on social media in in the realm of it was all perfect.

And everything was so beautiful and so delightful. And everyone was so pretty and their kids were so well dressed.

And their homes were immaculate and their and their foods were to be admired.

And that's right. Pancakes on the bed with balloons, curated pictures, sunlight, ring lights.

And I think somewhere along the way I really got lost in the message that these were just like aspirational images.

It was like a TV show. It wasn't necessarily real life. I really thought that that was what other people were doing and I wasn't having it.

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