There’s Hope in the Residue of Our Heartache: Lisa Harper & Richard Gamble
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
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🗓️ 23 October 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
This week, beloved Bible teacher and speaker Lisa Harper shares her perspective on how she traded theological study for a personal God experience and began seeing the Bible as a love story. She stresses showing up to God just as you are—imperfections and all—illustrated by a story of shared heartache.
Then, we’ll hear from Richard Gamble, the founder of the Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer in the United Kingdom, which is set to open in the fall of 2027. Richard shares the vision behind the largest Christian landmark in Britain, which will contain one million bricks, each one containing a scannable QR code which will reveal someone’s answered prayer.
Links, Products, and Resources Mentioned:
Past interview: Josh Baldwin
Upcoming interview: Christian Dearman
Jesus Listens: Prayers for Every Season
Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer
Royal Institute of British Architects
Interview Quotes:
“If we compartmentalize our relationship with Jesus to only when we’re reading the Bible, to only when we’re attending church or in a Bible study, then it can become segmented in our lives. Theology at its core is relational. It’s less about accruing data about who God is and it’s more about developing an intimate relationship with Jesus.” - Lisa Harper
“When you think of the Bible as a rule book, or that it’s primarily about biblical ethics, then it becomes punitive—it’s something I have to get right. When you see it as primarily a love story, then everything changes.” - Lisa Harper
“If you look at all of Scripture, including the Old Testament, through a socio-historical context, you’ll see this ongoing theme of a good God who’s always in the process of redeeming our inherent dignity as His children.” - Lisa Harper
“All of us experience exquisite loneliness, but that also shows we are hardwired for relationship.” - Lisa Harper
“Jesus Christ, the Son of God, He chose to be accessible to us, to be near to us when our lives feel crushed, to get the residue of our heartache on His personhood. He doesn’t just love me because it’s His duty. He delights in me.” - Lisa Harper
“How kind is our God. It’s His mercy that leads us to repentance.” - Lisa Harper
“Whatever you do, don’t believe the lie that you have to clean yourself up first before you turn back to God. Bring everything to the Lord, even your disappointment, even the places where you’re stuck. Then ask Him to restore unto you the joy of your salvation, and He will.” - Lisa Harper
“My own prayer life has changed so much because I don’t worry about if I sound spiritual. I just want to be closer to my Redeemer. Some days that doesn’t look pretty. Some days, that’s really, really messy. But He says, ‘Bring me everything.’” - Lisa Harper
“The first thing I did was to speak the dream. I think that’s an important step—when God gives you a vision, to actually speak it out to others.” - Richard Gamble
“If God has given you a dream, the success of that dream is not limited to your ability. The success of the dream is just predicated on whether God has chosen it to be. If God is behind a dream, everything is possible.” - Richard Gamble
“Ultimately, what we want people to do is to find stories that inspire them to go on their own personal journey to find Jesus, the God who answers.” - Richard Gamble
“You can overcome by sharing your testimony with somebody.” - Richard Gamble
“The more those overwhelming moments come, if you are grounded in that truth of who God is daily, you don’t get the anxiety, you don’t get the fear—it bounces off you because you know the truth.” - Richard Gamble
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| 1:14.2 | When you think of the Bible as a rulebook or that it's primarily about biblical ethics, |
| 1:21.0 | then it becomes punitive. It's something I have to get right. When you see it as primarily a love story, then everything changes. |
| 1:34.2 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. This week, beloved Bible teacher and speaker, Lisa Harper shares her perspective on how she traded theological study for a personal God experience |
| 1:45.2 | and began seeing the Bible as a love story. She stresses showing up to God just as you are, |
| 1:50.7 | imperfections and all, illustrated by a story of shared heartache. Then we'll hear from Richard Gamble, |
| 1:56.7 | the founder of the Eternal Wall of Answered Prayer in the United Kingdom, which is set to open in the fall of 2027. |
| 2:03.8 | Richard shares the vision behind the largest Christian landmark in Britain, which will contain one million bricks, |
| 2:09.7 | each one containing a scannable QR code, which will reveal someone's answered prayer. |
| 2:15.5 | Let's begin with Lisa's story. |
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