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Intelligence Squared

There Is No Planet B, with Mike Berners-Lee and Matthew Taylor

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 January 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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In this episode we were joined by Mike Berners-Lee, the climate change expert and author of There Is No Planet B: A Handbook For The Make Or Break Years. He was interviewed by Matthew Taylor of the RSA in a discussion on the real, concrete steps that we can all take to reduce our contributions to climate change and the destruction of the planet. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi Robert Beston here.

0:02.0

On the 6th of December I'll record a tortoise podcast, The News Meeting,

0:07.0

when I'll tell you about the most important story of the year

0:10.0

and I'll also talk to you about my new book about how to fix Britain and the West.

0:15.6

Fast.

0:16.6

Now, as an exciting Christmas tree, you can join me at the Tabernacle in Notting Hill by going to Intelligencesquare.com to get tickets.

0:28.0

See you then.

0:29.0

Maybe 30 or 20 years ago, a Saudi might have said,

0:32.8

I'm Muslim and I'm Arab and I'm Saudi.

0:36.8

Now they might say, I'm Saudi and I'm Arab and I'm Muslim.

0:39.9

You know, they're trying to radically refashion their country and they need help from the best experts in the world.

0:44.8

Do you want to have your country's people be disqualified from that because of some essentially

0:49.5

antiquated point of view about how countries work together?

0:53.0

In recent months it can feel like Saudi Arabia is intent on buying the world.

0:57.0

It's bought up much of golf, sports teams, many of the globe's best soccer players to its own domestic league and it owns huge chunks

1:04.6

of many of the biggest companies on the planet.

1:07.4

But Saudi Arabia is not just on a shopping spree.

1:10.4

The once insular oil-rich kingdom is transforming into a major diplomatic and military player,

1:16.2

a pivotal actor in the energy transition and looks set to post high-end cultural events like the FIFA World Cup.

1:22.6

You know, they know that buying a football club immediately brings you a

1:26.8

billboard into a global game that allows you to completely reposition yourself

1:31.8

or rebrand yourself.

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