There Are the "Maybe" Factors, and Then There's the Rifle Factor.

The Gist

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🗓️ 6 August 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

On The Gist, this weekend's mass shooters had different motives. It won't do to draw lessons from just one of them. In the interview, Amherst College professor Austin Sarat wants to enlist gun owners themselves in the fight for firearm regulation. "48 percent of gun owners favor a ban on assault weapons," he says, citing the Pew Research Center. The problem is convincing them that gun control advocates aren't pushing for full-on confiscation. Sarat is the co-editor of The Lives of Guns. In the Spiel, the one clear factor in America's growing mass shooting problem? Rifles. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This show may contain words that would offend the sensibility of certain habituaries of monasteries.
0:12.0	It's Monday, August 5th, 2019, from Slated to the Gist I'm Mike Pasca.
0:16.4	On ABC's this week, the mayor of Dayton and Waley was on the show, and Jonathan Karl introduced her this way.
0:23.2	Mayor Waley, I'm so sorry to be talking to you under these circumstances.
0:27.6	On Fox News, Chris Wallace had on the mayor of El Paso while I said this.
0:32.0	Mayor, first of all, we're so sorry to have to be talking to you under these circumstances.
0:36.5	Similar apology was extended by CNN's Anderson Cooper a while ago when he interviewed the staff
0:42.4	writers of the Annapolis Capitol Gazette. Again, I'm sorry to enter these circumstances, but I
0:47.9	appreciate the strength of you both talking. Thank you. Meet the press, head on and official from the
0:52.1	ADL after the Tree of Life synagogue shooting. Mr. Greenblatt, welcome to meet the press.
0:57.4	I'm sorry it's under these circumstances. Well, what other time were you really going to have
1:02.4	them on? It's a politeness, but it's also an admission that the best we can do is be reactive,
1:10.6	apologetically reactive at that. The real get would be the state legislator who failed to
1:17.4	enact a bill or the lobbyist who convinced the state legislator never to bring it up in the
1:22.8	first place or the gun owner who doesn't think that his or her prized hobby, including firing
1:29.4	away AR-15s in any way correlates to the use of those very weapons to kill people.
1:35.4	It's hard to apologize for the interviews never done. The storylines never pursued
1:40.8	about the numerous unseen forces that are conspiring societally to freeze us into this state of
1:48.3	impotence and competent impotence over this issue of gun violence. There are many ways to take
1:54.3	this argument, to take the shootings of Dayton and El Paso. I will on this show probably in future
2:00.6	days also, but right now I just want to take it in this one direction, which is to note about
2:05.7	an emerging fact or set of facts about the Dayton shooter. It seems that the Dayton shooter may not
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