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The Bulletin

Therapists' Free Speech, Grads' Careers, and Hegseth’s Imprecatory Prayer

The Bulletin

Christianity Today

News, News Commentary, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.4586 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

On Tuesday, the Supreme Court rejected a Colorado law that restricted counselors from assisting clients who wished to change their sexual orientation or gender identity. Luke Goodrich from The Becket Fund for Religious Liberty joins to discuss with Russell Moore and Clarissa Moll why the Supreme Court was nearly unanimous on the decision, and the implications for free speech. Then, CT’s Sho Baraka stops by to discuss the high unemployment and underemployment rate of college graduates, and where grads can find hope. Finally, Daniel K. Williams joins to analyze Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s service at the Pentagon in which he prayed imprecatory prayers against America’s enemies. This in contrast with Pope Leo’s Palm Sunday sermon, in which he prayed for peace in the midst of war. REFERENCED IN THE EPISODE: Conversion Therapy, TikTok’s Algorithm, and Child Abuse Convictions - The Bulletin Young Graduates Face the Grimmest Job Market in Years - The New York Times War Projections, 2028 Hopefuls, AI Novels, and Men's College Attendance - The Bulletin ABOUT THE GUESTS: Luke Goodrich is vice president and senior counsel at Becket, where he represents religious organizations and individuals in religious liberty disputes in courts across the country, including in the Supreme Court. He is the award-winning author of Free to Believe: The Battle Over Religious Liberty in America. Luke has appeared on CNN, Fox News, ABC World News, PBS, and NPR, and has been published or quoted in major outlets like The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, and The New York Times. Sho Baraka is Christianity Today’s Big Tent editorial director. He is a recording artist, performer, culture curator, activist, and writer. He is a cofounder of Forth District and the And Campaign, and he has served as an adjunct professor at Wake Forest University School of Divinity. He was an original member of influential hip-hop consortium 116 Clique, recording with Reach Records. Daniel K. Williams teaches American history at Ashland University and is the author of several books on Christianity and politics in the United States, including The Politics of the Cross: A Christian Alternative to Partisanship and Defenders of the Unborn: The Pro-Life Movement before Roe v. Wade. His work has been published in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Atlantic. GO DEEPER WITH THE BULLETIN: Join the conversation at our Substack. Find us on YouTube. Rate and review the show in your podcast app of choice. ABOUT THE BULLETIN: The Bulletin is a twice-weekly politics and current events show from Christianity Today moderated by Clarissa Moll, with senior commentary from Russell Moore (Christianity Today’s editor-at-large and columnist) and Mike Cosper (senior contributor). Each week, the show explores current events and breaking news and shares a Christian perspective on issues that are shaping our world. We also offer special one-on-one conversations with writers, artists, and thought leaders whose impact on the world brings important significance to a Christian worldview, like Bono, Sharon McMahon, Harrison Scott Key, Frank Bruni, and more. The Bulletin listeners get 25% off CT. Go to https://orderct.com/THEBULLETIN to learn more. “The Bulletin” is a production of Christianity Today Producer: Clarissa Moll Associate Producer: Alexa Burke Editing and Mix: Kevin Morris Graphic Design: Rick Szuecs Music: Dan Phelps Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Senior Producer: Matt Stevens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:36.9

From Christianity, today you're listening to The Bulletin, a podcast about the people, events, and issues that are shaping our world.

0:44.5

I'm Clarissa Mall.

0:46.1

Today, Russell Moore and I join with guests to talk about the Supreme Court ruling against a conversion therapy ban, the latest job prospects for young Americans, and

0:55.6

how to pray for your enemies. Welcome to the show.

1:03.5

Good morning, listeners. Welcome to our Friday roundtable. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court ruled

1:08.6

8-1 to reject a Colorado conversion therapy ban that restricted

1:13.0

counselors from assisting clients who wished to change their sexual orientation or gender identity.

1:19.1

This ban had targeted minors saying that while supporting or accepting gender transition was okay,

1:25.4

any practice or treatment to the contrary was unlawful.

1:29.3

Joining Russell Moore and me to understand this court ruling better, particularly as it relates

1:33.9

to First Amendment rights, is Luke Goodrich of the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty,

1:39.1

where Russell also serves on the board. Luke, welcome to the show.

1:42.8

Thanks for having me. Luke, back in the fall when

1:45.2

this case appeared in Colorado, we had your colleague Adele Kheim on the show to help us understand

1:49.9

what was going on. Could you bring us up to date from where this case stood last October?

1:55.1

Sure. Last October, we were waiting for oral argument in the Supreme Court and waiting for

1:59.8

the Supreme Court to rule. And two days ago, we got the Supreme Court and waiting for the Supreme Court to rule.

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