Hello and welcome to psychology and Seattle. I'm your host Kirk Honda professor and licensed therapist and I'm a professional hiker today

I thought I would present a study I conducted. What do you say burdo? That sounds very intriguing. Well the studies title is

seasoned psychotherapists experience of difficult clinical moments. Whoa, hold on. Say that again.

It's a long, it's a long title. Seasoned as an experience, not like human. Oh, okay. So seasoned psychotherapists experience of difficult clinical moments. Oh, I get it now. Okay, seasoned psychotherapists. Not psychopaths. Psychopaths experiences while cooking with human. Exactly. Now I have a question. So you said you conducted. This means what?

Like you conducted an orchestra. You interviewed people. What does it mean? It means that I carried out the study. I designed it. I decided upon the topic. I did the literature review. I interviewed the participants. I analyzed. I did the whole thing. Okay, got it. So picture this burdo. A client harshly berates a therapist for being ineffective and incompetent. Whoa, so we have a client yelling at

his or her therapist saying, you're a terrible therapist. Like, I've not gotten any better. This is not working. You suck. It's all your fault. And the therapist takes it to heart. Picture another situation. A client walks into session. And the therapist notices. He has a gun. Oh, God, another situation. A counselor is horrified by a child's account of being abused tortured even. Whoa, the therapist has to listen to detailed accounts of a child's torture.

And the counselors is horrified by that. These are stories or examples of difficult clinical moments, potentially difficult clinical moments. Throughout my work as a professor and a therapist, talking with other therapists, training therapists, supervising therapists. I have heard a number of stories like these, but, but not a lot, honestly, but, but, but some.

Yet, there is not much in the literature regarding difficult moments like these. How to handle that. Or even what they are. Right. How to handle. Yeah. And you don't take a class for it or something. And I've never seen a class offered or a training. I've never seen a training that says how to deal with a situation like this. You know, wow. It's there's trainings on all sorts of things, but I've never seen a training on this. So this sparked my interest. Right.

And I thought, hmm, I wonder what is in the literature. So I decided to look into it because sometimes just because I haven't seen any literature. It doesn't mean there isn't any literature. Right.

And one of the things I used to think early in my career was that I knew all the topics. I had seen all the topics in psychology. And boy was I wrong. I've read a lot to date. And I would imagine I've probably come across 0.001%.

That I've talked about not at all. довольно deactivated. You know, not just covered in fact different elements of the material Okay methodology, wow. Yeah there's. A lot.

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