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All My Relations Podcast

Theory of Water: World-Making with Leanne Betasamosake Simpson

All My Relations Podcast

Matika Wilbur & Temryss Lane

Native, Documentary, Pop Culture, Contemporary Native American Culture, Relationships, Society, Indigenous, Native American, Society & Culture

4.93.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

What can we learn from water? In this live conversation from Tidelands in Seattle, Michi Saagiig Nishnaabeg writer, musician, and scholar Leanne Betasamosake Simpson joins All My Relations to discuss her new book Theory of Water: Nishnaabe Maps to the Times Ahead, our second selection for the All My Relations Book Club. Leanne invites us to listen to water as both teacher and theorist, “Water changes forms from a solid to a liquid to a gas. It expands our understanding of time. It always esca...

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0:00.0

It's very clear to a lot of us that we need to be building another world, a different world,

0:14.1

a world where practices of care and consent and accountability are at the core.

0:19.9

I wanted to listen to water. I wanted to think through

0:24.1

world making, pushing back against colonialism and genocide and racial capitalism and this moment

0:31.4

that we're sharing and coming up with alternatives. So water is a being that we all have a

0:37.4

relationship to and with. It's inside our

0:40.3

bodies. It's outside our bodies. Water changes forms from a solid to a liquid to a gas. It expands

0:47.1

our understanding of time. It always escapes the container and it connects us all. Listening to water and thinking through

0:56.5

world making means that we have to collaborate with each other and we have to share our different

1:04.2

perspectives and different knowledges in terms of building against this this present moment. And

1:09.9

that's a struggle, but it's a relational struggle

1:13.1

to give birth to something different. Sorry. All my relations.

1:51.2

Matika Sitsda, Stah, Jopalap, doaltwa to Lelap,

1:56.4

dovah Suna-Mish, Tiguitziaz, Nostalajad Siaz.

2:05.0

Hello relatives. You say, hello, Batika.

2:16.4

Hello, Batika. I'm Matika Wilbur. I'm from the Swinamish and Talalep tribes, and I'm so excited to be here with all of you.

2:20.0

Welcome to our first ever live taping for All My Relations Book Club.

2:25.9

We're so excited.

2:27.5

All of you are here.

2:29.3

This is an incredible moment to be gathering with each and every one of you.

2:33.6

Neltzium, Manichelichasium,ichalachia, Temrus Lane, Senesnet.

2:39.8

Aitzquayal, good afternoon.

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