Hi, welcome to another episode of Theology Applied. I am your host, Pastor Joel Webbin with

Right Response Ministries. In this episode, I was very privileged to get to have a long conversation with

Mike Winger. Some of you guys are familiar with him. He's got about half a million followers on YouTube,

so you've probably heard the name. He's got a large audience. The reason why I invited him to this

conversation is because Mike, I think, has a

reputation, right?

Me and him have differences on what we talk about in this episode, but other things as well.

However, what I appreciate about Mike is that he's not woke.

He's not progressive.

He's kind of in the realm of like Elisa Chilters.

If you're familiar with her, I think conservative Christian,

holding to orthodoxy, holding to the inerrancy of scripture, those kinds of things,

teaching some really good, doctrinal, practical things, but also, also not really super conservative.

And you guys who listen to me, you know, I would be super conservative. And I wear that as a badge of pride.

I believe that that's what the Bible teaches. I'm not doing it just to do it. I'm not trying to be

conservative, just to be conservative. But I would be, you know, in the Doug Wilson and James

White and Jeff Durbin and, you know, like, I'm over here. And guys who like us don't always like Mike, but there's a ton of Christians who are

faithful and I think love the Lord who really like Mike and either don't know anything about

us or think that we're extreme. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to talk about

theonomy, which tends to get a bad rap and tends to be viewed as an extreme Christian view, an extreme doctrine.

And I wanted to talk about theonomy, not just with Doug Wilson, which I've done in the past.

You can go listen, or with Jeff Durbin, which I've done in the past, or with James White,

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