The zkWars | zkSync & Scroll
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🗓️ 3 August 2022
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
The zkWars are heating up. With 3 different teams recently announcing their zkEVM, we’re joined by Alex Gluchowski of zkSync and Ye Zhang of Scroll.
Optimism’s Ben Jones cohosts as we explore why zkEVM is such a big deal, the respective roadmaps to mainnet, and of course… wen token?
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Topics Covered:
0:00 Intro
3:15 Crypto 101
10:00 Alex and Ye
13:25 zkSync
18:20 Scroll
22:30 What's Different about zkSync
31:10 What's Different about Scroll
37:15 zkProof Performance
41:30 Decentralizing Provers
46:30 Approaching Developers
57:07 Challenges to Upgrading
1:03:40 Vibe Check
1:09:20 Centralized Keys
1:17:45 Closing
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Resources:
Ben Jones
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Alex Gluchowski
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Ye Zhang
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Bankless Nation. Welcome to another live edition of State of the Nation. Today, we're |
| 0:12.3 | going to talk about the zero-knowledge EVM, the ZK EVM. David, guide us through. This |
| 0:18.8 | is going to be formatted a little bit differently in that after the intro, I am actually stepping |
| 0:24.6 | out. So, who do we have on the show? How are we formatting this? And who is helping us |
| 0:28.8 | out today? Oh, we've got my good friend Ben Jones from Optimism. And Ben is going to be our |
| 0:34.4 | technical co-moderator here to help us unpack the ZK EVM. Ryan, you and I, I think we're pretty smart, |
| 0:41.2 | but there's way smarter people in this industry and there's way more technical things in this |
| 0:46.2 | industry that we just kind of need some help unpacking. And so, we're bringing in some extra help |
| 0:51.0 | from the optimistic roll-up world to help us unpack the ZK side of things. So, coming in in the |
| 0:57.7 | second half of the show, once we get, once we get there, we'll have Alex from ZK Sink and Ye |
| 1:02.3 | from Scroll. And Ben is going to help us guide us through this conversation to understand a little |
| 1:06.7 | bit more about the world of the ZK. Yeah. It's a world that's heating up. I think the title of this |
| 1:12.0 | episode is the ZK EVM Wars. And I think, you know, appropriately, it was like three weeks ago. All |
| 1:18.4 | three ZK EVM announced something big the exact same week. So, the ZK wars are heating up. David, |
| 1:25.2 | also got to tell him a little bit about our friends at Forda. And I think this is a really important |
| 1:33.1 | that we talk about tools like Forda right now, because since, did you know, since 2021, 138 |
| 1:39.6 | Web3 projects have been hacked. And that's cost victims total of $2.3 billion. And of course, |
| 1:47.0 | yesterday, David, we just saw the latest bridge hack, $190 million out of the Nomad Bridge. And so, |
| 1:54.3 | we reset the clock. It's been, now it's been zero days since the last incident. Tell us a little bit |
| 2:01.2 | about how Forda is trying to fix this. Yeah, we can all do our best with some more contract |
| 2:07.2 | audits and formal verification and blah, blah, blah, blah. And everyone should be doing that. But you |
| 2:11.2 | can also do an additional layer of protection, which is real time, mempool monitoring. And so, |
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