Hey, Banclestation. Welcome to another episode of State of the Nation. We're David and I

get into something topical, super topical item today. ZK EVMs. They are here. Well, David,

they are almost here. We have brought on someone from the ZK EVM team, Matterlabs, to talk

about it. What are we covering today, David? The ZK EVM is something that has really been

exciting a lot of people in the Layer 2 space, the scaling space because it is generally

considered the gold standard of scalability. ZK roll ups plus the EVM. We already know that

the EVM itself, it was a huge player in the 2021 bull market. So many people forced the EVM,

it's been out their own chains, but that was as a alternative layer one. You add some cryptography

magic with zero knowledge onto the ZK EVM and it unlocks new frontiers, Ryan, if you will,

for us to explore as we explore out the crypto frontier. So that's why we are super excited today

to talk to Steve Newcomb of the ZK sink, the Matterlabs team, and all about the incoming ZK EVM

that is imminent upon arrival. This is a technology that Vitalik in our episode earlier this week

that released on Monday, he said he was even surprised at how quickly ZK EVMs are coming to

market. And I think this episode will fill you in on some of those details. A quick disclosure

before we get in, David and I are angel investors in the Matterlabs, which is the entity behind ZK

Sink. We're also advisors to the ZK Sink project. We think that highly of it and ZK Sink is

currently a bankless sponsor. We wanted to get those disclosures up on the front of the show.

We take disclosure seriously. So we are mentioning them at the top of every show from now on.

There's also a link in the show notes where you can see all of the disclosure details for David

and I get a peek into what we own, what projects we're excited about. I'm also want to tell the

bankless nation about swell. This is the next frontier I think when it comes to decentralized

staking technology. This is a thing that we have to get better at in crypto. It would be a

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