Hey, Bankless Nation. Welcome to another state of the nation episode. We've got a fantastic

episode here for you. Look, something we thought they said was years away. Apparently has

just come to Ethereum. This is a key cornerstone in the efforts to scale Ethereum into the future.

And that is a ZK EVM compatible roll-up. We're going to be talking about that today. David,

who do we have on the show today to speak about that? Yeah, we have Alex, the co-founder, CEO

of Matter Labs, who is the team behind ZK Sync and ZK EVMs, what we're talking about today,

ZK roll-ups, especially in the last year of 2021 of Ethereum, that video of Vitalik talking

about how the Internet of Money needs to cost five cents has been a source of comedy for everyone

who's pointing at how high Ethereum's gas fees are. Well, when Vitalik made that comment about how

the Internet of Money needs to be five cents, he's talking about ZK roll-ups. He's talking about

the ZK EVM. And as of very recently, the ZK Sync team, the Matter Labs team, has been able to

put a ZK EVM on a test net, which means we have a ZK EVM ready to go. We just got tested out

first. And so we're going to ask Alex about all of these questions that we have as what's left

in this roadmap, what can people do now? When is this going to be ready for users? And of course,

the obvious and most fun question, when token, and just a few more conversations of that nature.

Yeah, it's an incredibly important subject, particularly this year. This is the year, it's a

proof year for Ethereum's scalability approach. We're also going to be talking about probably toward

end of the episode, maybe at the front too, about Ukraine. Understand many of the Matter Labs

team is actually located in Ukraine. Alex himself was born in Ukraine. I think crypto has a story to tell

and a role to play there. So we'll be talking about that. David, before we get into the episode,

though, we've got a special PSA from our friends at Opalus. All right, Opalus is awesome.

Like straight up awesome. If you want to become a self-sovereign Web 3 worker, you got to check

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