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🗓️ 12 November 2023
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Writer and comedian Ziwe has made a career out of conducting charged and satirical interviews. She joins us this week to discuss her debut essay collection, Black Friend (5:45), the backstory behind her essay WikiFeet (10:19), her early affinity for broadcast news (13:06), the influence of satirists Jonathan Swift and Stephen Colbert (15:10), and her early, formative experiences working in comedy (35:05).
On the back-half, Ziwe reflects on the making of her YouTube series Baited (38:06), a memorable episode with Aparna Nancherla (41:30), her pandemic pivot to IG live (43:30), and the Showtime variety show that followed (46:30). To close, a philosophy on art-making from Ira Glass (50:40) and what Ziwe hopes for in her next chapter (56:15).
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0:00.0 | Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Fr writer, actress and comedian Zeway. As you may remember, Zeway came to prominence |
0:49.2 | at the height of the pandemic when most of us were trapped at home endlessly doom scrolling in |
0:55.1 | search of signs of life. For most of 2020 though Zeway would take to |
0:59.6 | Instagram Live every Thursday at a p.m. where she would conduct a series of charged |
1:05.1 | interviews with actors authors and fellow comedians many of whom had either |
1:10.1 | been quote canceled or had recently made a public misstep on social media. |
1:16.1 | These conversations, especially when the subjects were white, would invariably turn |
1:20.9 | to the matter of race. And this is where things got famously complicated as |
1:26.7 | Zeway would pose questions like, Can you name five black people off the top of |
1:31.2 | your head? How many black friends do you have? And when you say |
1:34.8 | black people, do you capitalize the bee? Comedian Larry Wilmore called these IG live |
1:40.8 | performances a kind of racial high wire act that would often reveal the subject's |
1:46.0 | ignorance or self-involvement or frankly both. |
1:50.5 | Zeway would then move these interviews out of her Brooklyn bedroom and into a studio where |
1:56.0 | she would create her self-titled late night variety program for Showtime. |
2:00.7 | Starting in 2021, it ran for two excellent seasons before abruptly being |
2:06.2 | cancelled this past spring. She's recently returned with her debut collection of |
2:11.2 | essays entitled Black Friend, which you can now find wherever you get your books. |
2:17.6 | She's also at the tail end of her tour, so if you'd like to check out one of her shows, |
2:21.5 | visit Zeway.com. For today I wanted to talk to the |
2:28.1 | writer comedian about the art of interviewing, the influence of the Colbert Report, the power of the COBé report, the power of satire, why she turned to memoir, and how |
2:37.3 | she found her singular voice after years of searching. |
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