On this episode I talk to a former teammate of mine, he's still a good friend,

four was coach of Ulster, Botswana and Born,

Jiu-Jitsu King, legendary, Rodigrant.

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Best gift I've ever received has to be a bike when I was younger, a pedal bike.

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