The Young Gun & The Old Ammo: David Packouz

Trafficked with Mariana van Zeller

National Geographic

Documentary, Tv & Film, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.7 • 527 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Mariana talks with David Packouz, one of the two notorious young men who inspired the movie War Dogs. He made headlines when he sold illegal ammo to the US government in what was called “The Afghan Contract.” We hear how he became a major player in the weapons trade by age 25, how a major ammunition delivery went wrong, and how his booming career got shot down. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Trafficked podcast with Marianna Van Zeller is intended for mature audiences.
0:05.3	Listener discretion.
0:06.7	Is it mixed?
0:08.1	It's like 10 p.m. regular weekday night in Los Angeles.
0:14.9	And they're going to stash the guns in this car, and then the car is going to go to Mexico.
0:19.0	I think one of the most shocking things I saw while filming trafficked was an arms deal that happened just a few miles from my home here in Los Angeles. What this is? Well, I have an AR-15 with scope. I have a 45 Ruger. I have a Mawksbh. I have an AK-47 and I have another AR-15 wrapped around brand new.
0:38.0	And are these going down tonight?
0:39.9	They're going. They should get in shit about tonight, actually.
0:42.1	I was investigating how American weapons and blacks gun laws are fueling violence throughout Mexico.
0:48.9	And so it was a regular weeknight, and we went to meet this guy that we were told was connected to the Sinaloa
0:55.2	cartel in Mexico.
0:56.8	My boys are really like, they're cops.
0:59.6	We're not cops.
1:00.9	I know you're not cops.
1:01.8	I'm a journalist.
1:02.9	You know, with families around, cars driving by, I mean, they weren't even trying to hide
1:07.9	it.
1:08.2	And this car, after it was fully packed with guns,
1:11.4	was shipped that down to Mexico that same night.
1:13.8	These are the guns that are killing Mexicans on a daily base.
1:17.8	The cartels are going at it with the ARM 16s, Mini 14s, but that's the killer machine gun at that.
1:32.8	I'm Mariana Van Zeller, the host of the National Geographic TV series Trafficked.
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