Hello, Wine numbers. My name is Jesse Meekum, and this is podcast number 409 for

Wineab, where we teach you four rules to help you stop them in paycheck to

paycheck, get out of debt and save more money.

And my have I beat that horse, longest podcast ever.

You just got me going.

If you haven't heard why I hate debt, it's four reasons and I'll recap him really quick.

Cash, they steal it so you can't budget it. Creativity, it's killed, so you can't have it.

Opportunities are annihilated because you have nothing to risk.

You're living beyond your means. Only debt allows you to do that. And then just the big bad corporations.

I love I love capitalism. It's it moves the world. I think it alleviates poverty. It's wonderful in a

thousand ways that I don't want to elaborate here on this podcast. But we all have

choices. That's the beauty of the system. on this

podcast, but we all have choices. That's the beauty of the system. And we're just lining the pockets of corporations

when we choose to play this debt game.

So that's another reason I hate it.

They are taking profits and I think the cost to society is far greater than the profits that are being gained.

So if we want to raise all ships, fewer and fewer people should be borrowing money so that we can unleash

capitalistic creativity across the board and up and down the strata.

All right.

Let me tell you about something that's very cool. We are

launching a Wienab debt boot camp. It starts very soon. You can sign up at

Wienab.com slash boot camp. It's a Facebook group. It will only run eight

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