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The Daily

The Year of Taylor Swift

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Taylor Swift grabbed many headlines in 2023. Her widely popular Eras Tour, which proved too much for Ticketmaster to handle, has been both a business and a cultural juggernaut. And Time magazine named her as its person of the year. Taffy Brodesser-Akner, a staff writer for The New York Times, explains why, for her, 2023 was the year of Taylor Swift. Guest: Taffy Brodesser-Akner, a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Bolarro. This is the Daily.

0:07.0

Today.

0:10.0

2023 was many different things to many different people.

0:15.0

For our guest, Times magazine writer, Taffy Brodesser actor,

0:21.0

It was the year of Taylor Swift.

0:26.7

It's Friday, December 15th. So I have to say this is the episode I've been looking forward to the most of the whole year.

0:44.6

What?

0:45.6

Which probably says something about the gestation of a daily episode that it's taken us as long to make.

0:50.1

And the news this year.

0:51.1

And the news this year.

0:52.1

I have been looking forward to talking to you, Taffey about Taylor Swift for months and months and

0:57.1

months and I think it's appropriate that this ends up being one of the last episodes we do in

1:01.3

2023.

1:02.3

I am so happy to be here talking to you about it. Yeah and here

1:06.5

just going to get this out of the way not objective about Taylor Swift. Neither am I.

1:10.9

I'm a fan. I'm a Swiftie. We have to disclose these things. We have to.

1:14.8

Part of the rules. The ethics guidelines. I don't pretend to be open-minded. I'm bought in.

1:21.5

And within the context of I suppose fandom yeah we're going to apply a critical

1:26.3

lens yes of course of course that's what we do we're going to be journalists sure so I want to

1:31.2

understand in your mind why Taylor is not someone to just be a fan of to become entranced by during a commute, workout, cleaning session, and here I'm being my graphical but somebody worthy of a journalistic inquiry of the kind that

1:49.8

you carried out a little bit earlier this year.

1:53.5

My pitch for the story was that we are neglecting our audience

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