Giving up is unforgivable.

So whether we're reading more serious books about democracy in our book clubs,

or talking about it family gatherings, I think Thanksgiving is going to be lit for a bunch of families this year.

That's something that we can all do.

I'm Preet Bharara, and this week, former U.S. attorney and author, Joyce Vance, joins me to discuss her manual for protecting our democracy and the rule of law from President Trump's overreach.

The episode is out now. Search and follow. Stay tuned with Preet, wherever you get your podcasts.

This week on version history, the Verge's new chat show about old technology, we're talking

to guitar hero.

You know, the game that we all spent countless hours standing in our living rooms, hammering

away on a plastic guitar, just trying to be rock stars.

And you know what?

We were rock stars.

On this episode, we go through the whole history of the game, from its origins in arcades

in Japan,

to its incredible ascent in the music industry, all the way to a somewhat surprising place

you can still see remnants of guitar hero. All that on version history, on YouTube, or wherever you get podcasts.

The computers are using themselves.

This week on the Vergecast, we look at ChatGBTGPT's new web browser that browses the web for you.

It's part of a big trend across the industry.

Basically, every AI company is building one of these, and we'll talk about why.

Plus, Samsung made a much cheaper version, the Apple Vision Pro.

Who's that for?

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