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The New Abnormal

The Worst People on Facebook Now Want to Ruin Real Life

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For years, Facebook has been a cesspool of conspiracy theorists, political ragemonsters, and quacks pushing cures for decaying Boomers. But as dangerous as these creeps were, they were mostly contained to the social network.


Until the pandemic hit.


Now, all of us are locked down. And Facebook’s worst actors and brainwormiest thinking is bursting out into the real world—and threatening to take it over.  


“I see it a lot actually in local community pages,” The Daily Beast’s Kelly Weill explains on the latest episode of The New Abnormal. “To give an example, I was looking at a page, a local news site, about my 5,000-population hometown. The main restaurant, they closed down for a COVID exposure or something. And people were saying, ‘Ah! This is tyranny. We don't have to do this.’ Someone was posting an image macro in the comments with the ‘where we go one, we go all’ Qanon thing. And I'm like, ‘Oh my God, like, this is about the salad bar.’” 


“You really see the conspiracy theories and the atomization, the disconnection from real people and how you would hopefully behave in a real life setting. That just vanishes on Facebook. And I think with so many people using that now as their main means of communicating, it's spreading,” Weill tells Molly Jong-Fast.


Take the icky phenomenon of online multi-level marketing. Those “are those parasitic posts that you see all over your Facebook. It's your friend from home saying, ‘Hey, I just got a great deal on vitamin supplements. And, uh, if you, you know, give me $50, I'll send them to you. Or you can go into business with me and become my associate,’” Weill says. “It's something that you're not legally allowed to call a financial cult, but golly, does it sound like one.”


One local politician in Kansas was in so deep, he had “someone come and make a sales pitch for during a political meeting on preventing COVID,” Weill continues. “During a council meeting on COVID, he brought in someone from an essential oil company to make the pitch about how these products can help you and your family and empower you to live the healthy lifestyle.”


“I don't think there are official rules against doing that. We've just been, uh, coasting on people not doing that. That's been kind of the unspoken expectation,” Weill says.


Speaking of expectations, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) stops by the show to talk about what he wants to see from Trump’s upcoming second impeachment. And Rick Wilson has a message for the Republican senators who want to let the ex-president off the hook: “This is one of those votes, like the Iraq war or Obamacare, that you never escape. You never escape it. And if you think the tide isn't turning, you're not paying attention. Trumpism is still a threat and will be for a long time, so I know that's why those guys are afraid. But the rest of the country is done with this bullshit.”


If you haven't heard, every single week The New Abnormal does a special bonus episode for Beast Inside, the Daily Beast’s membership program. where Sometimes we interview Senators like Cory Booker or the folks who explain our world in media like Jim Acosta or Soledad O’Brien. Sometimes we just have fun and talk to our favorite comedians and actors like Busy Phillips or Billy Eichner and sometimes its just Rick & Molly discussing the fuckery. You can get all of our episodes in your favorite podcast app of choice by becoming a Beast Inside member where you’ll support The Beast’s fearless journalism. Plus! You’ll also get full access to podcasts and articles. To become a member head to newabnormal.thedailybeast.com





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0:00.0

Hi folks, this is Rick Wilson and welcome to the Daily Beasts, the new abnormal.

0:05.2

Hi, I'm Molly John Fast, a left-wing pundit and an editor at large at the Daily Beast.

0:11.3

I'm also an editor at large at the Daily Beast, a former Republican political strategist,

0:16.2

best-selling author and full-time troublemaker.

0:18.8

We're here to have fun, sharp conversations with some of the smartest people in media,

0:22.8

politics and science that help make what's happening in the country and the world clearer.

0:27.3

We take the issues seriously, ourselves, not so much.

0:31.4

Our world has been turned upside down.

0:34.1

On the new abnormal, we'll talk about the people who got us into this mess and how we

0:38.5

get ourselves out of it.

0:39.9

Hi there, Molly John Fast.

0:41.4

Hi Rick Wilson.

0:42.7

How are you on this fine and beautiful morning?

0:44.9

I'm good, Rick Wilson.

0:46.4

How are you?

0:47.4

I am prospering, thank you.

0:48.7

I'm full of joy at the beginning of impeachment trial week Part 2, Electric Bougaloo, the

0:54.2

Forbidden Dance.

0:55.7

I just, I just mashed up 280s bad movies.

0:58.6

How are we going to get Democrats to call witnesses?

1:01.7

This is a difficulty that my Democratic friends often have a gap between what we call

1:06.7

fronting and bloodletting, okay?

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