Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Am I delighted? Well, I'm just happy, I guess. I'm satisfied. I'm something to be here with

John Lovett, co-founder of Crooked Media, and a podcast host, including the great podcast,

Love It or Leave It, where this show will be cross-posted later today.

So if you want to hear it twice with his audio team,

you can go listen to it over there.

How are you doing, John?

I'm doing okay, Tim.

Yeah, we were normally on Tuesdays we record a monologue,

a kind of comedic look at the previous few days' news.

And I just thought maybe this would be a better, a conversation about how we're feeling would be maybe more fruitful right now.

All right. Well, I'm not sure how comedic it's going to be, but I'm sure we'll find a laugh somewhere.

As you alluded to, because we are gay, white men, and podcast hosts, this will mostly be a

self-indulgent therapy session about how we feel. But before we go fully solipsist there,

I want to think a little bit about others. Can we start by thinking a little bit about others?

Is that okay?

Sure.

Let's do that.

I guess just open-ended.

We've had a week now to marinate on this.

And, you know, there are fears, your fears and worries about what might come.

And there's a lot of unknowns still, a lot of known unknowns, if you will. And so I just wonder, like, what feels the most acute to you as far as actual threats

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