Hi, I'm Yoway Shaw. You may know me as the former host of Invisibility.

Well, I'm back with a new show called Proxy. It's about the niche emotional questions that no one in your life can relate to.

That's where proxy comes in. I'll connect you to

researchers and strangers with shared experience and you'll get to ask all your

questions. We're kicking things off with a three-part series on the emotional and mental health

toll of layoffs.

Subscribe to proxy wherever an anonymous morsel of gossip from the real world

I am so so excited to have with me today Gabby Wendy

Gabby is a TV personality from some of your and your grandmother's favorite reality

TV shows.

We're talking The Bachelor, The Bachelorette and Dancing with the Stars.

She is now the host of a podcast called Long Winded, where she runs her mouth on her favorite topics like Taylor Swift and the hopeful downfall of the patriarchy.

Gabby, welcome!

Oh my God, thank you so much for having me.

Do you want to start me off with the classic first question and tell me what your relationship

to gossip is?

Yes, I've literally been thinking about this for the last year.

I'm just going to go no holds bar I love gossip I think it's a way to

bond I think it's fun I think it's funny but I'm not gossiping to try and ruin people's lives like it's like there's a housewife style of gossip

Where they're like actually making shit up and like wanting to ruin people's reputation.

But my style of gossip is just like,

if like somebody else is letting their life hang out so messy,

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