Right now, our forests are in trouble, and this is especially true in Brazil.

Brazil is home to one of the largest tropical rainforests on Earth, and it's facing a huge

deforestation problem. Over the last 40 years, an area as large as California has been cleared

in Brazil. I mean, what do trees do anyway? Uh, they help us

breathe. But just as crucially, they foster incredible biodiversity unique to the region's

ecosystem. Deforestation isn't just about the trees. And even more problematic, it's happening

illegally, which means it's harder to regulate.

But perhaps the way to solve this problem is not through policing and prosecution, but instead,

by reimagining and creating a whole new economic paradigm, where we reaffirm our necessary

relationship to the natural world.

I'm Madupa Akinola.

This is Ted Business, a podcast from TED. Our speaker today is civic entrepreneur Ileona Saboa de Carvayo,

and she's here to share some of the lessons she's learned

from trying to develop a new economy where profit comes from protecting natural resources, not just extracting them.

Then after the talk, I'll share a parallel I've seen in my own work and travels.

But first, a quick break.

And now, Ilyona Saboa de Carvio takes the TED stage.

A nature's superpower. Sounds great, right?

But what does it mean?

In Brazil, achieving superpower status goes far beyond renewables and green tech.

It starts with fundamentally redesigning our relationship with nature. Over half of global GDP

depends on everything nature provides for free, the air we breathe, the water we drink, the stability of our climate.

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