The world rearms – Panel special with Gavin Esler, Emma Beals and Oz Katerji

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

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🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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The world’s future is darkening. Ukraine’s defence is in peril, the Red Sea and Israel/Hamas conflicts threaten to join hands, the US is stationing nuclear weapons in England again, and even conscription is back on the agenda. Where are these multiple crises in Ukraine and the Middle East heading? The This Is Not A Drill team of Gavin Esler, Kyiv-based conflict journalist Oz Katerji and independent consultant and senior adviser at the European Institute for Peace Emma Beals convene for the first of our semi-regular panel discussions. • “It’s very simple. If you don’t want to worry about conscription then provide Ukraine with the support it needs.” – Oz Katerji • “The US was trying very hard to steer clear of the Middle East before October… They’ve been brought back unwillingly and they don’t have a lot of choice in the matter.” – Emma Beals • “My strong impression is that Donald Trump is out for revenge against both Ukraine and Zelenskyy… There is real concern about a Trump presidency.” – Oz Katerji Support This Is Not A Drill on Patreon to get early episodes, merchandise and more. When you buy books through our affiliate links you’re helping This Is Not A Drill by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. Written and presented by Gavin Esler with Emma Beals and Oz Katerji. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:44.6	personnel and Jordan have affected us all in planning the future. Worldwide
0:49.6	governments, defense and national security Strategies are planning too.
0:53.6	So we thought we should give them a hand.
0:55.1	After all, we've had scary headlines about military leaders suggesting we could be heading
0:59.6	towards World War III.
1:01.7	The United States is planning to station nuclear warheads in Britain for the first time in 15 years.
1:08.0	Senior British generals talk of expanding the British Army and we've even heard ominous discussions of the sea word, conscription.
1:15.0	This war is about Russia fearing something much more powerful than any physical weapon on Earth, democracy.
1:22.0	Maximizing our preparedness and our deterrence help. physical weapon on earth, democracy.
1:22.8	Maximizing our preparedness and our deterrence helps to minimize the chance of a conflict ever
1:27.6	arising.
1:29.6	Meanwhile, there remains, of course, no ceasefire in Gaza whose the militants and Yemen
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