From the Trump administration's national security strategy of 2017, quote,

China challenges American power, influence, and interests.

From the Biden administration's national security strategy of 2022.

China is the only competitor with both the intent to reshape the international order and the power to advance that objective.

If Trump and Biden agree that China is a threat, China is a threat. Today a scholar who has devoted her professional life to the study of

that threat. Elizabeth Economy on Uncommon Knowledge Now. knowledge now.

Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge.

I'm Peter Robinson.

Elizabeth Economy did her undergraduate work at Swarthmore, earned an MA here at Stanford,

and holds a doctorate from the University of Michigan.

She served at the Council on Foreign Relations

and at the World Economic Forum before coming here

to the Hoover Institution in 2020. Dr Economy is the author of half a dozen books including her most recent volume, The

World According to China, and she has just returned to Hoover after a leave of absence in

Washington where she served as senior advisor

for China to Secretary of Commerce, Gina Ramundo.

Liz, welcome back.

Thank you, Peter.

Great to be here. If Jijinping could have everything he wanted, if he could adjust the entire world to his liking,

how would life here in the United States be different?

I mean, it would be radically different, but maybe I'll take a step back first and just describe a little bit what shejing pings ambitions actually are because I think it's important

to understand just how transformational his vision is for reordering the world order. I think to begin with if you look back to 2017

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