Summary
The Moral Maze returns this week to apply its nose to the grindstone and naturally the prospect of work is exercising our collective mind. Ringing, perhaps guiltily in our ears, are the words last week of the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt. Defending the changes to tax credits he said "We want this to be one of the most successful countries in the world in 20, 30, 40 years' time. There's a pretty difficult question that we have to answer, which is essentially: are we going to be a country which is prepared to work hard in the way that Asian economies are prepared to work hard, in the way that Americans are prepared to work hard? And that is about creating a culture where work is at the heart of our success." According to one business expert he may have a point. Rohit Talwar, the chief executive of Fast Future, has said teachers should be preparing schoolchildren for a future that could see them having to work in 40 different jobs until they reach 100. For many this debate isn't just about increasing life expectancy and the cost of state pensions. It's about what kind of contribution society has the right to ask of its citizens and whether the common good demands that we try to meet it. Is work not just financially rewarding, but morally improving? Is self-reliance a virtue that is undervalued in Britain? Or are they both a moral smokescreen for a soulless, utilitarian attitude that sees us all as units of economic production and only values us while we continue to contribute? Isn't the true test of good work not whether it's 'hard' but whether it's fulfilling and productive? Whether we enjoy it? The Moral Maze chaired as ever by Michael Buerk. Michael is a man known for his love of hard work. He says he can watch it for hours. Chaired by Michael Buerk with Melanie Phillips, Michael Portillo, Giles Fraser and Matthew Taylor. Witnesses are Sheila Lawlor, Dan Taylor, Tom Hodgkinson and Lord Maurice Glasman.
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| 0:00.0 | Good evening. I'm fascinated by hard work. I can sit and watch somebody else doing it for hours. |
| 0:05.1 | That's not good enough, according to the Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt. I and the rest of us |
| 0:09.3 | need to buck our ideas up and work harder. If we want this country to be amongst the most |
| 0:13.8 | successful in the decades to come, he said last week, we need to work as hard as the Chinese |
| 0:18.3 | and the Americans. Mr. Hunt, whose wife is Chinese, incidentally, was defending cuts in tax credits. |
| 0:24.7 | He sees them as moving society back towards self-reliance and self-respect based on work |
| 0:29.8 | and a corresponding shift away from dependence on the state on the rest of us. |
| 0:34.5 | There's an important economic issue here. |
| 0:36.5 | British productivity has persistently |
| 0:38.3 | lag behind many competitor nations. But it's an essentially philosophical argument about the |
| 0:43.9 | work ethic, Protestant or otherwise. It sees work as morally improving in itself, and the |
| 0:49.7 | self-reliance it brings as a superior virtue. Not everybody agrees. There are many who see it as a necessary |
| 0:56.2 | evil and placing too higher priority on work in our lives, threatening to turn us into |
| 1:01.8 | soulless units of production. Is hard work good for us? Saving away in the Moralmes Galley tonight, |
| 1:08.6 | our panel, Melanie Phillips, social commentator on the Times, |
| 1:11.6 | Matthew Teller, chief executive of the RSA, the Anglican priest and part-time polemicist, Giles Fraser, |
| 1:16.9 | and restored to us after a summer spent riding the rails, the former Conservative Cabinet Minister Michael Portillo. |
| 1:22.5 | Nice work if you can get it, Michael. Where do you stand on the wider issue, though? |
| 1:26.8 | Well, I think people who have self-respect are generally happier and they make better citizens, |
| 1:32.1 | and I think that work, certainly activity, is a route to self-respect. |
| 1:36.6 | And I also think that people who choose to be idle have no right to live off the fruits of the labour of others. |
| 1:41.9 | Matthew Dana. |
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