Don't hold anything too tightly.

Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you,

and then let it go.

For me our soul is like it's unbound it's limitless but we will use words to

limit ourselves.

When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to ourselves

and that's where you become empowered.

Courageous participation attracts positive things.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow and this is the Goop Podcast, where we bring together visionaries, scientists, healers, artists, and seekers.

I'm so grateful that I get to interview these extraordinary thought leaders and share their

wisdom with you.

And I love listening to the conversations that are led by my co-host and dear friend

Cleo Wade. Cleo is a beautiful poet and author. I deeply admire her and the way she keeps her heart open to the world.

Together we believe that engaging an open-minded, honest, and sometimes difficult conversations

has the power to change our lives.

All right, over to Cleo.

My guest today is Lisa Soap.

Lisa is the author of the book Other People's Words, which as Lisa shares today is a book about friendship,

grief, and what it's like to lose friends and how to find them again and again and again through the language that they leave behind.

In this book, Lissa explores the ideas of Russian philosopher Mukile Bakteen, who believed that our speech is filled with the reverberating voices of others.

After losing two of her close friends in different ways,

Lissa discovered traces of their voices and language through their voicemails, letters, and emails.

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