Hey everybody, hi guys, well from gorgeous and warmer ever Salt Lake City, Utah, it's

think I made this the podcast. I'm Frank Feldman and I'm Dan Beager and coming up

today Dan we're gonna be talking about heaven and hell the carrot and the

stick yeah what makes the Christians tick it's it's it's the setup that makes it

all work and for Mormons did it entirely wrong but it complicated that just

does the show that maybe you don't need it we're gonna talk about it we're

gonna see if you need heaven and hell to be a good Christian slash anything I

don't know we'll see yeah all right well Dan yeah I've got just a hell on the

story to start a software oh good this has to do with the US conference of

Catholic bishops and and the National Suicide Hotline oh oh okay and I don't

know I'm gonna let you guess do you think they supported the National Suicide

Hotline or do you think they actively worked in the background behind the

scenes to undermine it and try to defeat it because it was an active it was an

act of Congress that established it I feel like we have to go with here's a

thing Catholicism has since time immemorial being a four-square if you commit

suicide you go to hell so they're against suicide right this seems like a

no-brainer Catholics totally you're bringing it up so it's very obviously the

opposite that is ding ding ding ding ding that is correct Dan you get the prize

wow yeah they they opposed it with the bill was being passed to establish it

and provide funding and all that kind of stuff will because the hotline also

provided resources to LGBTQ plus people right of course of course so they're

like well we don't think anybody should commit suicide but maybe the clear

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