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Pantsuit Politics

The Women Who Left No Man Behind

Pantsuit Politics

Sarah & Beth

Society & Culture, Politics, News, News Commentary

4.64.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Sarah and Beth interview Taylor Kiland about her book Unwavering and the wives of Vietnam POWs and their advocacy to leave no man behind.


TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • America’s involvement in the Vietnam War
  • Unwavering: The Wives Who Fought to Ensure that No Man is Left Behind with Taylor Baldwin Kiland
  • Outside of Politics: Healthy Patriotism


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0:00.0

This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce.

0:10.4

Thank you for joining us for Pantsuit Politics.

0:19.8

Hello!

0:27.1

Thank you for joining us here at Pantsuit Politics.

0:29.2

This Beth Sarah is on her summer sabbatical, though you will hear her voice in just a few minutes.

0:34.0

This episode is coming out on July 4th, 2023.

0:37.3

The 247th anniversary of America's Independence from Great Britain and a birthday of sorts.

0:44.4

I think birthdays are always good times for reflection.

0:47.2

Here's what's going right.

0:48.2

Here's what needs attention.

0:49.9

Maybe most importantly, here's what we've learned.

0:52.4

So it got us thinking with almost every major story of the last couple of years.

0:57.6

The Afghanistan withdrawal, the Ukrainian invasion,

1:00.8

classified document leaks, efforts to impose accountability on the executive branch,

1:05.4

even COVID and abortion.

1:08.1

Sarah and I find ourselves returning to lessons from the Vietnam War era.

1:12.4

And, relatedly, we keep thinking about activism.

1:15.6

What makes activism effective and necessary and impactful?

1:21.1

So as we celebrate this July 4th, we wanted to talk with an expert

1:25.3

about a very specific and effective form of activism that took place during the Vietnam War.

1:31.2

Led by the wives of soldiers taken as prisoners of war or designated as missing in action.

1:36.4

Before we get to that conversation, let's orient ourselves in time and space.

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