The Women of “Girls” | Episode 23

Cannonball with Wesley Morris

The New York Times

News, News Commentary, Arts, Society & Culture

4.7 • 9.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

HBO’s “Girls” begins its final season this Sunday, and we discuss the show’s legacy before Jenna sits down for a live conversation with Lena Dunham, Allison Williams, Zosia Mamet and Jemima Kirke. They talk about the show’s early lack of diversity, why “Silicon Valley” gets off easy and what it’s like to have the public completely conflate a person and the character she plays. Plus: We debate whether deleting your Uber account actually has an impact and play a new game called “Did This Person Vote for Trump?”

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0:00.0	I'm Wesley Morris.
0:01.4	I'm Jenna Wortham, and this is still processing.
0:05.8	All right, so what are you processing this week?
0:11.0	Well, you had a really good conversation with the women of girls.
0:14.4	I did. I mean, thank you.
0:16.4	And I've figured since it shows about the start this weekend,
0:21.0	it's a good time to think about what the show means.
0:24.6	Yes. And this is the last season of girls.
0:26.8	Last season. Last season.
0:28.2	We have overthought it, ignored it, been dismissive of it,
0:35.8	been in love with it.
0:38.6	And now it's leaving.
0:39.6	And it's really, it's been really interesting to think about.
0:42.3	You and I were both part of something that the New York Times did
0:46.5	assessing the show's place in various pantheons.
0:51.8	And it was really heartening to read these people, including us,
0:57.2	try to figure out what this show means.
0:58.8	So we're going to talk about that for a minute.
1:01.0	And then listen to your conversation that you have with Lena Donovan,
1:03.6	Alison Williams, and Chimamacirk, and Sasha Mammett.
1:06.7	Yeah.
1:07.4	And then I first got to have a technology, politics, boycott,
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