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The women leaving the 'New Right'

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 19 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Defectors from the ‘New Right’ say that sexism is a feature, not a bug of modern-day conservatism.

New York Magazine’s Sam Adler-Bell published The Young Women Leaving the New Right, detailing the experiences of conservative women who say that rampant misogyny within the space is pushing them out of a community they helped build. From demanding that women stay home and out of public life to advocating for the repeal of civil rights law - some conservative women have reached their limit. But host Brittany Luse wonders: will this change of heart stick in the voting booths? Or is this just more of the same?

To answer that question, Brittany is joined by Editor at Large of the 19th and NABJ President, Errin Haines. Errin helps unpack the link between the ‘new’ and ‘old’ right, white women checkered political history, and how searching for community can sometimes lead people down dark paths.

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0:00.0

I mean, let's just be real. Like, women operating in the manosphere, right? I mean, like,

0:06.9

that has always been a risky proposition, but it is also not new. Like, the manosphere as part of

0:13.3

our democracy has literally been here since the origins of democracy, right? Okay, you're going to have to

0:18.1

break that down. Here you go. Hello, hello.

0:22.2

I'm Brittany Luce and you're listening to It's Been a Minute from NPR, a show about what's going on in culture and why it doesn't happen by accident.

0:31.1

Last week, in my interview with the I've Had It and IHip News co-hosts, Jennifer Welch and Angie Pump Sullivan, I wanted to know their thoughts on the

0:39.1

wave of young women leaving the new right. They were skeptical of whether or not these women,

0:45.5

likely white women, would distance themselves enough from the movement to make a large political

0:50.4

swing. And to me, that spoke to a larger question about what these women were even

0:55.0

looking for in the new right. And now that some may be defecting, where do they see their place

1:00.3

in this volatile political spectrum now? To help unpack this, I called up editor at large of the

1:05.6

19th and NABJ president, Aaron Haynes. Aaron and I got to the root of what some of these women may have been searching for

1:13.3

and how the desire for a particular kind of comfort and community can lead people down

1:18.6

troubling paths.

1:20.1

Erin, welcome to It's been a minute.

1:23.1

It has been a minute.

1:24.6

Thanks for having me back.

1:25.9

Good to be with you.

1:26.6

It's so good to have you back. It's so good to have you back. Okay, we got we got something to get into today. We have something to get into today. This conversation was conceived after reading an article by Sam Adler Bell in New York Magazine or for the Intelligence for New York Magazine called The Young Women Leaving the New York Magazine or for the Intelligence or for New York Magazine called The Young Women Leaving

1:46.2

the New Right.

1:47.6

So before we really dig into it, I guess my first question is this.

1:52.5

What's the difference between the old right and the new right in your view?

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