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The Woman Who Turned on Stephen Miller

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 December 2019

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

When she was a staff writer at Breitbart News, Katie McHugh exchanged hundreds of emails with Stephen Miller, who is currently one of President Trump’s senior advisors. Then, McHugh was a champion of the alt-right and a supporter of white nationalist ideology. Now, she wants the world to know that those same ideas are what motivate Miller to craft hard-line anti-immigration policies. And she has the receipts to prove it.   Guest: Katie McHugh, former Breitbart staff writer Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, Danielle Hewitt, and Mara Silvers. Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When Donald Trump was running for president, holding rallies around the country, he had

0:09.8

a reliable warm-up act.

0:12.6

How are we all doing tonight, Florida?

0:16.0

His senior policy adviser, Stephen Miller.

0:19.1

And I believe that he is going to be the state of Florida that sends Donald J. Trump to

0:24.5

the White House.

0:28.0

Miller was just 30 years old at this rally, the summer before Trump's election.

0:32.9

He manages to look utterly at ease and completely out of place at the same time.

0:39.5

With his neatly tailored suit, he doesn't seem to have much in common with the cheering

0:44.4

crowd, who are mostly wearing t-shirts and maga hats.

0:48.8

But Miller knows what his audience wants to hear, and he seems to relish saying it.

0:53.8

We'll never really know the full extent, the full extent of Hillary's corruption, because

1:00.8

she deleted those 30,000 emails, right?

1:04.4

He's telling this story about Washington insiders selling everyday Americans short, and a story

1:11.0

about a border wall that's going to keep those Americans safe.

1:15.1

You know it's going to happen when he builds that wall?

1:18.8

The drugs aren't going to come in and hurt our children anymore.

1:25.8

Because folks, brick by brick, that wall is going to get built.

1:44.4

Now that Trump is in the White House, Stephen Miller's been turning this rhetoric into policy.

1:49.7

He isn't just advocating for a border wall.

1:52.2

He said to be the architect of Trump's family separation plan, and he was reportedly behind

1:56.9

the rollback of a program for migrants fleeing social unrest.

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