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We Can Do Hard Things

The Woman Who Spoke Truth To Trump: Bishop Budde

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

409. The Woman Who Spoke Truth To Trump: Bishop Budde Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, during President Trump's inauguration service, delivered a powerful sermon on unity and directly appealed to the President for mercy on behalf of vulnerable communities. Today, she joins us to discuss her courageous stand and explore how we can embody both strength and compassion in our own lives.​ -How to carry your despair and cynicism instead of handing it to others -Exposing the lies of partisanship and how to fight for dignity for all​ -The “sin of empathy”? The chilling rise of this idea in Christian Nationalist circles -Why not knowing what to do in this political moment is part of the preparation​ Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde serves as spiritual leader for the Episcopal congregations and schools in the District of Columbia and four Maryland counties that comprise the Episcopal Diocese of Washington. The first woman elected to this position, she also serves as the chair of the Protestant Episcopal Cathedral Foundation which oversees the ministries of the Washington National Cathedral and Cathedral schools. She is an advocate and organizer in support of justice, including racial equity, gun violence prevention, immigration reform, the full inclusion of LGBTQ+ persons, and the care of creation. She is the author of three books; the most recent, How We Learn to Be Brave: Decisive Moments in Life and Faith, was published in 2023. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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slash setup on January On January 21st, the day after President Trump's second inauguration, President Trump, Vice President Vance, and their wives sat in the front row of Washington National Cathedral, flanked by their families and hundreds

0:56.4

of supporters, for the traditional post-inaguration prayer service. Presiding over the service and

1:03.1

delivering the sermon was the right Reverend Bishop Marion Edgar Buddy, the first woman elected

1:09.1

to that position. She stood in the pulpit and gave a 15-minute

1:14.1

sermon on unity, not, as she said, a unity of agreement or conformity or victory or passivity,

1:22.6

but a unity that serves the common good that is a threshold requirement for people to live together

1:29.1

in a free society. Then, in two minutes of breathtaking bravery, before the 1,000 attendees

1:37.1

and millions watching on television around the globe, she locked eyes.

1:43.9

We're all going to be crying before this ward is through. She locked eyes with the most

1:49.6

powerful man on earth, addressed him personally, and spoke a plea of such long absent moral clarity,

1:58.0

leadership, and courage that it was like staring straight into the sun,

2:02.7

like a kid who stands up to a bully on a playground,

2:07.1

stepping between the bully and her friends to take the hits so her friends might not have to.

2:13.2

Let's listen. Let me make one final plea, Mr. President.

2:20.3

Millions have put their trust in you.

2:23.3

And as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving God.

2:33.3

In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country.

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